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Rubato, I said, and literally just the bare bones melody as required. If you want the full embellished version with steady backing rhythm just say the word.
something wrong with you people
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02-07-2025 01:19 PM
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Dangit rag, you didn't let the game go on long enough...I knew the answer!
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I should *** well think so!
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Rubato still has to have some internal time. There’s a push and pull that needs to happen. If the phrase is out of time with itself then the melody isn’t clear.
Originally Posted by ragman1
Segovia is the king of rubato and rit/accel for whatever that’s with. Pablo Casals is another good one.
EXAMPLE: I’ve Grown Accustomed to Her Face is very free with the time in the original … kind of like a recit…
You can be extremely loose with time but there’s still right and wrong things …
I’ve grown a ———- customed
to her —- face accust———- umed to her ———— smile … etc
not great.
when you think about songs with words, then there are ways that the rubato can actually make the song lose its logic. Harder to find those cadence points in a song with no words but they are there.
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You probably know the story of the painting that wasn't Chelsea Bridge but Battersea Bridge. Ironically that one's closed at the moment for repair work. Re-opening Autumn '25.
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BS. I played it like I felt it and I know it really well. If it passed over your teachery head too bad. No musical sense, that's my trouble. Originally Posted by pamosmusic
You can't do it unaccompanied too slow, you know, sounds dreadful.
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Ah, I thought I'd be in the clear offering constructive, melody-specific feedback with respect to an unaccompanied melody posted in a thread called "Just the Melody."
Pardon my unnecessary, ivory tower, academic nonsense.
As you were.
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Sorry, I do know it (even heard a friend play it at a gig last weekend), but had trouble hearing it your version. Also, in general I find it really hard to separate melody and harmony with Strayhorn. I hear one without the other and I'm like "huh? what the heck is that", but I hear them together and I'm like "oh yeah!" Originally Posted by ragman1
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I recognised ragman’s tune after a few notes. Mind you I have always liked this tune and have played it a lot, so I know it well.
(It was also a bit of a giveaway that he called it ‘cb’!)
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Absolutely. I have a theory that people have heard of it but don't know it that well. If you don't know it fairly intimately then perhaps the unaccompanied version might seem a bit random. Or something like that. Originally Posted by John A.
It's actually quite a simple tune but it's not that easy to solo over because the chords are a little all over the place. Very atmospheric, though. I used to live in London and know Battersea very well. I think Billy captured that dark, misty, film noir dankness brilliantly.
Maybe this one was a bit obscure for here.
This is a painting by Grimshaw. I have stood where that man is standing.
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Gonna subject you to a ballad as I'm starting to work on a solo version of this tune. So I thought this exercise would be beneficial to burn this melody into my brain.
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Something relaxing....
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Last edited by Mick-7; 02-08-2025 at 07:20 PM. Reason: Take 2 uploaded
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Trying to obey the rules this time ...
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Nice.
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This is a difficult melody-Confirmation-Ch.Parker.
That's why I play this melody at a comfortable tempo.
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Moreso even than "Donna Lee" this tune for me is the essence and heart of the bebop language. Beautiful, but tricky, logical, but surprising. Originally Posted by kris
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Like a lot of tunes I've posted for this thread, this is one I have always, from the beginning, done as solo guitar in a chord-melody format. I never played the melody alone until I decided to work it up for this thread. It's funny how playing chord-melody solo guitar style shows you a lot about a tune, it also hides some things. Anyhow, here's "Embraceable You"
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The bridge by my house has been closed for 27 months now. Originally Posted by ragman1
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You better write a tune about it!
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La Fiesta-A beautiful guitar melody composed by Ch.Corea.I
It seems to me that I was played it for the first time at the guitar forum.
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Playing all around a pug-nosed dream (up tempo), hopefully reflecting more of the latter than the former. Having some trouble with this tune's bridge because the rhythm changes at that point. And my guitar tone sucks but I ordered a new microphone which should fix that.
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Last edited by Mick-7; 02-10-2025 at 01:13 AM.
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I've done the melody. Twice. Well, also at the end. Unfortunately you're getting the full version but you can always turn it off.
The thing here was trying to get the backing right within my limited means. Also, solo-wise, seeing what more than Dorian would fit. Purists will notice I've used D7-Db7 for the t/around. I preferred it because the proper chords are too fiddly to get a lot of variety out of.
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Started Star Eyes yesterday
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Oh, that's a good one, I think I'll do that one too. Originally Posted by pamosmusic
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Okay but you have to do the intro bassline too. That's essential. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
(also I never realized that it's almost the same as the Equinox intro?)
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