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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    OK, major felony rule-breaking here, but I coudn't stop myself because the backing track is too much fun. If I may make a slight attempt at justifying this admittedly completely aberrant conduct ... in jazz to understand a melody is to understand how to make it flow into a solo and to solo is to understand how to get back to the melody. So even though it's not only the melody, it's all about the melody. Don't ask permission, just seek forgiveness ... Yeah, that's the ticket ...

    Indeed forgiveness comes easier than permission. But man, play like that and I'll forgive anything. I thought this was delicious. I will warn you though that you were having entirely too much fun. Gotta reel that in, man. We're serious here. ;-)

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    Here's one that I struggle with and pretty much get pinned by every time, but I really enjoy playing with this tune.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    My default is to "like" any clip of a member playing. Just taking the trouble to play it, video it, and post it for us deserves a certain amount of appreciation. I always start a clip and for this thread, the clips usually run under 90 seconds so it's not hard. I tend not to want to listen to 5 choruses of noodling.. though of course I'll post MY noodling because it's creatively explosive and brilliant and some people just don't know pure genius when they hear it.... and I have some swamp in Florida I can sell you too.
    I try to "like" the posts that I've listened to, and try to listen to all that are in a thread I participate in (don't always get to 100%, though). I agree with your sentiment -- if people put themselves out there, that in itself is worth acknowledging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Here's one that I struggle with and pretty much get pinned by every time, but I really enjoy playing with this tune.

    +

    Definitely nailed the head on that one. The solo was cool, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Last one from the vault today, I promise! But this one is an example of a "jazz original" where you can actually play around with the melody a bit.

    I apologize in advance for the longish-chord-melody sections after the head. The chord punches in the head itself are part of the melody.

    Unit Seven
    Some tunes can't really be done as single line melodies, so no need even to beg forbearance. A few more that come to mind are Mercy Mercy Mercy, Moanin, Work Song, Red Clay, Interplay

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Indeed forgiveness comes easier than permission. But man, play like that and I'll forgive anything. I thought this was delicious. I will warn you though that you were having entirely too much fun. Gotta reel that in, man. We're serious here. ;-)
    I'll try to do better next time ... OK, probably not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    +

    Definitely nailed the head on that one. The solo was cool, too.
    Very gracious. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Again here you go lecturing somebody that you ought to be taking a lesson from.
    I repeat, I am just stating my opinions, not sure why you interpret practically every statement I make as "dictating and lecturing." I think this is simply projection on your part because it's exactly the attitude you've taken with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    I repeat, I am just stating my opinions, not sure why you interpret practically every statement I make as "dictating and lecturing." I think this is simply projection on your part because it's exactly the attitude you've taken with me.
    It's the glasses in your avatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris
    That Freedom Jazz Dance tune always intrigued me, seeing as it was composed by Eddie Harris, who is usually described as a ‘soul-jazz’ sax player, so you wouldn’t think he’d come up with something like that.

    Anyway kris’ version prompted me to look into it. It seems it came from some kind of exercise he used to practise for playing difficult intervals on the sax. Must have made his day when Miles recorded it! (Eddie said that came about because Ron Carter was playing bass with Eddie, then he took the tune to Miles, who obviously liked it.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    It's the glasses in your avatar.
    I believe those are custom-made 3D mouse hunting glasses, not sure where he got them, I was afraid to ask.

    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    That Freedom Jazz Dance tune always intrigued me .... It seems it came from some kind of exercise he used to practice for playing difficult intervals on the sax.
    That makes sense, it's mostly 4ths and 5ths, hard to play on the saxophone too I guess - at that tempo anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    I repeat, I am just stating my opinions, not sure why you interpret practically every statement I make as "dictating and lecturing." I think this is simply projection on your part because it's exactly the attitude you've taken with me.
    This is just an internet disadvantage.
    Sometimes it is very difficult to understand what the writing is about and for what purpose someone writes.
    That's why it's better to be careful ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    Some tunes can't really be done as single line melodies, so no need even to beg forbearance. A few more that come to mind are Mercy Mercy Mercy, Moanin, Work Song, Red Clay, Interplay
    Hard disagree on that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    That Freedom Jazz Dance tune always intrigued me, seeing as it was composed by Eddie Harris, who is usually described as a ‘soul-jazz’ sax player, so you wouldn’t think he’d come up with something like that.

    Anyway kris’ version prompted me to look into it. It seems it came from some kind of exercise he used to practise for playing difficult intervals on the sax. Must have made his day when Miles recorded it! (Eddie said that came about because Ron Carter was playing bass with Eddie, then he took the tune to Miles, who obviously liked it.)
    There are also versions with pauses between the phrases of the head...


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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    Some tunes can't really be done as single line melodies, so no need even to beg forbearance .... Red Clay
    It can be done.... This was Jack's first album, groundbreaking at the time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    It can be done....
    There’s a section of the head that can be played single line. But the head as a whole is not a single line melody, unless you exclude the chord parts, which I’ve never heard anyone do, which Jack Wilkins does not do in this recording.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    There’s a section of the head that can be played single line. But the head as a whole is not a single line melody, unless you exclude the chord parts, which I’ve never heard anyone do, which Jack Wilkins does not do in this recording.
    The B section? It is the same as the 4 bar introduction (chords) that Jack plays, could be called a melodic vamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    I repeat, I am just stating my opinions, not sure why you interpret practically every statement I make as "dictating and lecturing." I think this is simply projection on your part because it's exactly the attitude you've taken with me.
    Maybe I'm the only one your comments sound this way for; if so, fine. But I detect a somewhat similar feeling in some others on this thread. Maybe you need to spend some time in self-examination and reflection. As will I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    That Freedom Jazz Dance tune always intrigued me, seeing as it was composed by Eddie Harris, who is usually described as a ‘soul-jazz’ sax player, so you wouldn’t think he’d come up with something like that.
    For what it's worth, I like it, it's very groovy. I also find it strangely unpretentious, as some of the modern tunes can be. Lots of soul, which makes sense.

    As far as I can make out, it's really just the head which focusses on the quartal intervals and all that. After that it's more or less pentatonic based. The out bits are instructive too.

    This one's a whole tune, not just the head. Nicely played too. If I could do it, and do it justice, I would!


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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Maybe I'm the only one your comments sound this way for; if so, fine. But I detect a somewhat similar feeling in some others on this thread. Maybe you need to spend some time in self-examination and reflection. As will I.
    No harm done. A couple of people did say earlier that I was being a stickler about the rules of this exercise, and I suppose I was, because I thought they were more clearly defined than they are. I realized later that they are open-ended.

    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    As far as I can make out, it's really just the head which focuses on the quartal intervals and all that. After that it's more or less pentatonic based.
    Only one chord throughout so it's really hard to solo over.

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    All The Things You Are - one of my favourite jazz standards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CliffR
    All The Things You Are - one of my favorite jazz standards.
    All the Laundry's on the Floor is another good tune, in fact I was expecting you to play a medley of the two tunes but.... no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    All the Laundry's on the Floor is another good tune, in fact I was expecting you to play a medley of the two tunes but.... no.
    Looks like I'm going to have to figure out how to get iMovie to add a virtual background....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    Hard disagree on that.

    Nope. Doesn’t work for me.

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    When this song was first proposed to me to add to my repertoire, I didn't get it. This was long ago, and I didn't know about telling a song's story. Since then I have gained an appreciation and fondness for this song and its beautiful melody.

    Here's My Ship with only a double bass backing.