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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    Even the singer (Rachel Gould) can be heard counting it in 3 (or 6, to be precise) at the start.
    I know, she stopped at 5, or just breathed 6. I was listening to several of those vids, not just one, there were lots, and I'm not dedicated enough to wade through every single one in its entirety. What I normally do is play the start then skip to the middle somewhere and maybe one more skip after that just to get the idea, so to speak.

    The Rachel one started fine, just what you'd expect. When I skipped it seemed different. I think they'd relaxed the rhythm so that the beat emphases were pretty well equal, in other words you weren't getting a strong 3/4 beat any more. I knew Chet played around with tunes so I listened a bit more and it was swinging away happily so I thought they'd gone into 4 for a bit.

    What I didn't do was go over the whole thing tracing the beats to make sure. I mean, it's not an exam or a test or something, it's a track on the forum. So I left it and went on to something else.

    That's all. But nice to know I got it wrong, saved me having to find out the long way :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    I know, she stopped at 5, or just breathed 6. I was listening to several of those vids, not just one, there were lots, and I'm not dedicated enough to wade through every single one in its entirety. What I normally do is play the start then skip to the middle somewhere and maybe one more skip after that just to get the idea, so to speak.

    The Rachel one started fine, just what you'd expect. When I skipped it seemed different. I think they'd relaxed the rhythm so that the beat emphases were pretty well equal, in other words you weren't getting a strong 3/4 beat any more. I knew Chet played around with tunes so I listened a bit more and it was swinging away happily so I thought they'd gone into 4 for a bit.

    What I didn't do was go over the whole thing tracing the beats to make sure. I mean, it's not an exam or a test or something, it's a track on the forum. So I left it and went on to something else.

    That's all. But nice to know I got it wrong, saved me having to find out the long way :-)
    This explanation is longer than listening to the tune again and counting to three.

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    It's very interesting why musicians take this tune so often.
    Is the reason that the composer was Miles Davis?
    Or maybe the reason is that this blues has a different harmonic structure?
    or simply that it's blues...?
    I'm curious about the opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris
    It's very interesting why musicians take this tune so often.
    Is the reason that the composer was Miles Davis?
    Or maybe the reason is that this blues has a different harmonic structure?
    or simply that it's blues...?
    I'm curious about the opinion...
    It's a great, elegant tune along with a nice bass riff. It's simple but distinctive. Hence the popularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris
    It's very interesting why musicians take this tune so often.
    Is the reason that the composer was Miles Davis?
    Or maybe the reason is that this blues has a different harmonic structure?
    or simply that it's blues...?
    I'm curious about the opinion...
    It's totally its own blues and a "waltz blues" is quite a feature.

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    BTW, any blues that's not the typical, canonic straight ahead jazz blues is very attractive, I think...

    (blues with 7 sus chords etc.)

    Take for example 81 (still giants at work here!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by kris
    It's very interesting why musicians take this tune so often.
    Is the reason that the composer was Miles Davis?
    Or maybe the reason is that this blues has a different harmonic structure?
    or simply that it's blues...?
    I'm curious about the opinion...
    Some feel its not a blues because of the structure and timing.

    I think Miles named it (ALL) as it has elements of Dominant and minor blues with a three and a four feel.

    I think it fits with overall essence of the album, I see it on a chilly gray overcast day in NYC walking on some
    narrow streets thinking of things that could be different.

    It also has some mystery flavor to it.

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    Modal blues – that's how I think about this tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris
    Kenny ripping it! You’d never known that he didn’t read music!

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    really love this take, my kind of sound.

    meola i know and listen to regularly, but the other 2 no idea who they were before this vid; bald guy is spicy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzloverfat View Post


    really love this take, my kind of sound.

    meola i know and listen to regularly, but the other 2 no idea who they were before this vid; bald guy is spicy!
    nr 1 John Scofield the best and.........
    Steve Lukather
    Al Di Meola

    ps.
    This video has already been thoroughly discussed on this guitar forum.
    It’s not a competition, but Sco wins here…by far


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    Quote Originally Posted by kris View Post
    The pianist played a solo, which I like better than Jesse van Ruller's solo, which is also excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop View Post
    Kenny ripping it! You’d never known that he didn’t read music!
    I think Kenny Barron can read music (he had classical piano lessons before playing jazz).

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop View Post
    I think Kenny Barron can read music (he had classical piano lessons before playing jazz).
    He continues to teach at New York's Juilliard School.
    Kenny Barron can read music.


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    If he can play like that, who cares if he can read music? Jazz is not a sight reading competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris View Post
    All Blues_Beets_ Van Ruller
    That was a very good find, well done. And it was good.

    Interesting that it's the very simplicity of the tune that makes it difficult. I'm glad they did it as a blues more than the Dorian/Mixo effect that a lot of players do, including the Miles Davis version. It's the repetitive nature of it that demands that one has to think of something new every time. Easier said than done.

    And, yes, I'd say that Peter Beets (a very tall man by the look of him) shone in his solo. I had the feeling that it wasn't quite Jesse's thing. He's a favorite player of mine and I've seen him do a lot better on different material.

    And both the bass and drummer were excellent too. I liked the drummer particularly.

    And it wasn't too loud either :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cunamara View Post
    If he can play like that, who cares if he can read music? Jazz is not a sight reading competition.
    The problem is something else.
    If you are a musician who does not read music, you are not a complete musician.
    For example, there may be situations such as:
    1 No one will invite you to the recording studio when there are arrangements of tunes.
    2 You play a concert with another musician and you get notes of a new composition just before the performance - you won't play it.
    3 You can't save your songs.
    4 In the case of teaching jazz, it would be good to know the basics of jazz theory supported by musical examples of written musical instruments, etc......

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    That was a very good find, well done. And it was good.

    Interesting that it's the very simplicity of the tune that makes it difficult. I'm glad they did it as a blues more than the Dorian/Mixo effect that a lot of players do, including the Miles Davis version. It's the repetitive nature of it that demands that one has to think of something new every time. Easier said than done.

    And, yes, I'd say that Peter Beets (a very tall man by the look of him) shone in his solo. I had the feeling that it wasn't quite Jesse's thing. He's a favorite player of mine and I've seen him do a lot better on different material.

    And both the bass and drummer were excellent too. I liked the drummer particularly.

    And it wasn't too loud either :-)
    Miles Davis' versions of the tune All Blues are unbeatable.
    The studio version is fantastic.It fits perfectly with other tunes from the Kind Of Blue album.
    There are also great live versions of All Blues at different tempos, with sensational solos by Miles and other musicians from his band.
    You can find them on the Internet-youtube.