Metronome exercises. Can you play good time using 4 beats to the bar?

[Bach5G]

I was working on fast rhythm changes today.

I might need physio on my right arm tonight.

[Aiq]

Some players I know absolutely hate it if the song doesn't stay at exactly the same tempo throughout.

But, some classic jazz recordings vary by 10% or so (per a friend with a tap tempo metronome).

I'm not that bothered by tempo creep if the groove is good.

(kidding)

[AllanAllen]

I'm wondering, suppose everyone played by metronome to perfection in an ideal (or dystopic) world - wouldn't music be all but AI music?

No, I don't think so. As humans we cannot achieve perfection. Playing as a group, the time will always have some fluctuation at best, or a push and pull at worst. Practicing to a metronome is a way to avoid the push and pull of rushing or dragging the group.

[pamosmusic]

Well, if there's a tempo creep or drag the groove can't be that good, it's like against the defenition of what groove is. Of course there are exceptions, in many funk recordings where tempo manipulated with purpose. But I am bothered by some classic jazz recording with the tempo creep. Max Roach/Cliffor Brown is one, I can't listen to it, It's like antithesis of groove.

Me too man.

Sometimes I even turn off Voodoo and just bop to the iReal tracks.

[emanresu]

Been trying to get the "always grooving" thing going on. Meaning, when maybe toying around, or
experimenting, then there would be no compromise in rhythm. Took the longest time working with the metronome.
So, the difference now between earlier and now - I used to get slowed down slightly, when something less familiar
was played. Or got a little hesitation in the notes - that sucks the most and was the reason to go all in with the
metronome. And now.. hah. when something like that is played, some iffy less prepared notes, I won't do the trade in the tempo.
Instead, I would stumble badly and need to retry
But I prefer that over "almost ok". I so hate the feeling that it is "almost ok".

[GuyBoden]

I'm still using the metronome set on "Four to the Bar", I've been doing this for nearly 50 years.

A few weeks ago, a well known UK Pro player said I had good time.

But, in the past I've been told by teachers that I need to work on my time.

[Reg]

yea... some just have an internal pulse. I'm pretty sure I have one and trust it.... but I listen and know the differences between feels. I mean just having perfect time, (pulse) etc... really doesn't make you have Feel.
Note... I studied with pro drummers as a kid... lucky enough to have taken private lessons from Allan Dawson while at Berklee in early 70's ... played gigs where Steve Smith was performing...wow ... I was lucky enough to feel great time LOL. Anyway.... Personally I believe you need to be able to hear or feel longer spaces of time. Feel longer phrases...
4 and 8 bars phrases with Targets... and know rhythmic patterns and different subdivisions that imply different Targets.

Also... the big one, be able to feel the differences between triplet and straight time.

get Drum Genius.

[Christian Miller]

Me too man.

Sometimes I even turn off Voodoo and just bop to the iReal tracks.

Me too.

Imagine how much better Wes and Grant would have been if they’d played to a click


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[pamosmusic]

Me too.

Imagine how much better Wes and Grant would have been if they’d played to a click


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Someone gets me

[Christian Miller]

get Drum Genius.

It’s a very good app

People insist on playing with iReal. I don’t know why they do this. I don’t know what they expect to get from the process. They say they are just playing for fun, but I don’t think anyone is deriving any entertainment from the activity, least of all me.

Society is to blame!


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[Strat-itis]

I was working on fast rhythm changes today. I might need physio on my right arm tonight.

Exactly why I told up it can go f itself. :P

[Strat-itis]

People insist on playing with iReal. I don’t know why they do this. I don’t know what they expect to get from the process. They say they are just playing for fun, but I don’t think anyone is deriving any entertainment from the activity, least of all me.

Playing with backing tracks triggers the life out of me for some reason.

[Luicaz72]

Nothing wrong with 4 beats per bar. If your time isn't solid yet, that's probably the best place to start.