Official Barry Harris Thread

**Vladan** · 08-05-2019, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by A. Kingstone

Middle 4 Strings - Drop 2

...
6 - AEDC
.....1312 ...

Probably should say G, instead of D?

**Vladan** · 08-05-2019, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Squirrel

1- CGAE
2314

First grab dim chord shape,
Db G Bb E
2 . 3 .1 . 4

Then stretch/slide 2 and 1 back one fret.

**A. Kingstone** · 08-05-2019, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Vladan

Probably should say G, instead of D?

Yep

**rintincop** · 08-05-2019, 11:42 AM

“8 7 6” phrases

**rintincop** · 08-15-2019, 09:21 PM

Thanks. Which changes did Barry Harris play during his solo on Moose The Mooch?

**christianm77** · 08-16-2019, 05:34 AM

Rhythm changes?

**NSJ** · 08-16-2019, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by rintincop

“8 7 6” phrases

LOL. I know about the 5432 phrases but what is this? Related to 5432 or something else?

**rintincop** · 08-16-2019, 04:27 PM

Sorry I wasn't more clear. I meant which version of rhythm changes chords was Barry doing during Moose, particularly bars 5-8.

For example, bars 5-8 , "old school" walk up style:

| Bb Bb7/D | Eb Edim | Bb/F G7 | C-7 F7||

Or, was Barry thinking the later, more cyclical path for bars 5-8:

| F-7 Bb7 | Eb Ab7 | D-7 G7 | C-7 F7 ||

Of course it can go either way. I know Milt Jackson, Oscar Peterson and Ray Brown like the first way, old school.

**rintincop** · 08-16-2019, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by NSJ

LOL. I know about the 5432 phrases but what is this? Related to 5432 or something else?

There are the 5432 embellishment phrases... so there also should be similar embellishments for the 876. Simply extrapolate upon them.

**christianm77** · 08-16-2019, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by rintincop

Sorry I wasn't more clear. I meant which version of rhythm changes chords was Barry doing during Moose, particularly bars 5-8.

For example, bars 5-8 , "old school" walk up style:

| Bb Bb7/D | Eb Edim | Bb/F G7 | C-7 F7||

Or, was Barry thinking the later, more cyclical path for bars 5-8:

| F-7 Bb7 | Eb Ab7 | D-7 G7 | C-7 F7 ||

Of course it can go either way. I know Milt Jackson, Oscar Peterson and Ray Brown like the first way, old school.

Well Barry boils everything down to

Bb | F7 | Bb | F7
Bb7 | Eb7 | Bb | F7

**pcsanwald** · 08-16-2019, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by christianm77

Well Barry boils everything down to

Bb | F7 | Bb | F7
Bb7 | Eb7 | Bb | F7

one thing I remember from Barry's classes is that he never plays a G7 on the first bar, he was always insistent that he reserved this color for the 3rd bar, so the tune moves someplace different instead of repeating. He doesn't really seem to play a G7 in his right hand in the last 2 bars.

In the solo I posted he gets most of his mileage out of anticipations or delays (like going into the bridge), as opposed to chord subs. He's pretty by the book on this version in terms of changes.

**A. Kingstone** · 08-16-2019, 08:19 PM

Long time Barry Harris student, tremendous teacher Howard Rees podcast.

Catalyst of The Barry Harris Workshop Videos, We Are One concerts and Jazz School Online .

Good interview provides some clarity regarding Barry's method.

**rintincop** · 08-16-2019, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by christianm77

Well Barry boils everything down to l

Bb | F7 | Bb | F7
Bb7 | Eb7 | Bb | F7

Ah, but of course, thanks for reminding me. Does he treat the 2nd ending of the A section the same? And the turn around of the 3rd A section after the bridge?

**A. Kingstone** · 08-16-2019, 09:52 PM

Bb Up and down right christian?

**christianm77** · 08-17-2019, 04:35 AM

Yeah the changes in the solo look to be the simple ones with a lot of anticipations etc.... one oddity is the G7 arp going into the Bb7 scale.... you could see that as brothers and sisters.

Other than that he doesn’t play the G7 at all? This is similar to many Parker solos.

Also Eb7 in bar 6 and on the last A Ebmaj7.