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    And here's the Bossa Lady herself, Donna's De Bossa

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    Fun fact, two of the three first jazz albums I bought with my own money were Joe Pass Blues Dues and Charlie Byrd Bossa Nova Pelos Passaros.

    Went to Barnes and Noble in Fredericksburg Va and got those two with the Brubeck Jazz at Oberlin album.

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    And here's one from an older thread attempting "Solar"

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    Here's my third effort for this thread. Last time out I played with no backing and someone said great no backing and someone said it's better with backing... so here I play through once melody only, and the second time round add in some quiet backing to set the groove (although, in this case I played the melody first and added the backing after...).

    Cheers
    Derek

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Here's Donna Lee; made the clip some time ago but it fits for this thread
    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    And here's the Bossa Lady herself, Donna's De Bossa
    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    And here's one from an older thread attempting "Solar"
    Nice ones Lawson. Getting myself up to speed on Donna Lee would violate the 30-minute rule, so I'll definitely leave that one to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Definitely had the special sauce on this one.
    Thanks!

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    Hey, I never said "Only 30 minutes"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Hey, I never said "Only 30 minutes"
    I assumed the 30-minute rule meant practice it for no more than 30 minutes before doing a recording. But if in fact I have more time for Donna Lee ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Hey, I never said "Only 30 minutes"
    ... these 30 minutes are sometimes 30 years...
    Giant Steps.

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    Yeah, the stipulation was actually "play it for at least 30 minutes, if possible."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Yeah, the stipulation was actually "play it for at least 30 minutes, if possible."
    Ah, that makes much more sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    Joe Pass was certainly great at it, but there have been many others, Charlie Byrd, Gene Bertoncini, Earl Klugh, Joe Beck, Barney Kessel, Jim Hall, Pat Martino, to name a few. All different, all great.
    It was a personal preference on my part. I'm not saying there weren't others. There are, I've heard them too :-)

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    Frankly, I don't see the point in playing intricate bebop tune heads here like those we played in the study group:

    Bebop heads: Donna Lee

    I mean, this thread is about playing "just the melody." What is the alternative with Donna Lee, would you play a chord melody of it?

    Quote Originally Posted by kris
    these 30 minutes are sometimes 30 years... Giant Steps.
    Don't think many here would need 30 minutes to master "just the melody" of Giant Steps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    Frankly, I don't see the point in playing intricate bebop tune heads here like those we played in the study group:

    Bebop heads: Donna Lee

    I mean, this thread is about playing "just the melody." What is the alternative with Donna Lee, would you play a chord melody of it?



    Don't think many here would need 30 minutes to master "just the melody" of Giant Steps.
    Mick has more thoughts about the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    Frankly, I don't see the point in playing intricate bebop tune heads here like those we played in the study group:

    Bebop heads: Donna Lee

    I mean, this thread is about playing "just the melody." What is the alternative with Donna Lee, would you play a chord melody of it?

    Practice a melody and then record it. We don't need extra rules and stipulations. You know, for all your talk about this being too easy, you haven't once posted a melody of all pinch harmonics or the melody up a 3rd, or any of the other "hard mode" ideas you've suggested.

    I want to hear a pinch harmonic Satin Doll or MoonGlow

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic
    Mick has more thoughts about the rules.
    Just wondering what if anything is off limits, how about if I play just the melody of a Debussy song?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    Is a Charlie Byrd Brazilian?
    No, he was NOT a friggin' Brazilian, he came from Virginia. And he wasn't much good at Bossa either. He used to play blues sounds over it which is definitely not Brazilian. Always sounded to me like an easy option on the fly because he couldn't do the real thing properly. But it probably sold records.

    Pass, on the other hand, never ever played blues licks over bossa numbers. he knew better.

    Here we are, jazz for the masses. Yuk. When you get to 1.25 put a bag on your head.



    And how to do it properly if you're American.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    Just wondering what if anything is off limits, how about if I play just the melody of a Debussy song?
    Please do.

    I think we have specified earlier that the idea is playing simple melodies as a musical exercise rather than difficult ones as a technical exercise, but if someone posts a bunch of regular melodies and one bebop head sneaks in — which is quite literally what Lawson did — I can’t say it’s hurting anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    And he wasn't much good at Bossa either. He used to play blues sounds over it which is definitely not Brazilian. Always ounded to me like an easy option on the fly because he couldn't do the real thing properly. But it probably sold records.

    Pass, on the other hand, never ever played blues licks over bossa numbers. he knew better.
    Tell me you’ve never transcribed a Bossa without telling me you’ve never transcribed a Bossa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    Just wondering what if anything is off limits, how about if I play just the melody of a Debussy song?
    Sounds like a great idea.

    Bebop is certainly not off limits, it's just that heads like those might have less room for interpretation. I think we had a conversation about that 20 something pages ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    Frankly, I don't see the point in playing intricate bebop tune heads here like those we played in the study group:

    Bebop heads: Donna Lee

    I mean, this thread is about playing "just the melody." What is the alternative with Donna Lee, would you play a chord melody of it?



    Don't think many here would need 30 minutes to master "just the melody" of Giant Steps.
    You can play "One Note Samba" if you consider "Giant Steps" melodie to be easy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic
    Tell me you’ve never transcribed a Bossa without telling me you’ve never transcribed a Bossa.
    Yeah, who the hell would play blues on a bossa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Yeah, who the hell would play blues on a bossa?

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    The A section of “Wave,” anyone?

    EDIT: haaaaa quoting your post now because that was exactly my thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic
    Tell me you’ve never transcribed a Bossa without telling me you’ve never transcribed a Bossa.
    Why would I transcribe a bossa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    No, he was NOT a friggin' Brazilian, he came from Virginia. And he wasn't much good at Bossa either. He used to play blues sounds over it which is definitely not Brazilian. Always sounded to me like an easy option on the fly because he couldn't do the real thing properly. But it probably sold records.

    Pass, on the other hand, never ever played blues licks over bossa numbers. he knew better.

    Here we are, jazz for the masses. Yuk. When you get to 1.25 put a bag on your head.



    And how to do it properly if you're American.

    I thought they were both very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    Why would I transcribe a bossa?
    So that you actually knew what you were talking about and could avoid nonsense like that last post of yours.