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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    I'd suggest using a guitar next time though.
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    I realize now what I said sounded harsh. I didn't mean it that way, it was one of those quips that just sort of came out, felt funny at the time, but now I see wasn't funny at all. I'm sorry, and I hope I wasn't inhospitable.
    Some people prefer much bigger frets on their instruments.... I mean, tell me Lawson that you've never felt like striking your guitar with a large mallet when it's being intractable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    I realize now what I said sounded harsh. I didn't mean it that way, it was one of those quips that just sort of came out, felt funny at the time, but now I see wasn't funny at all. I'm sorry, and I hope I wasn't inhospitable.
    It's no prob, I knew you were joking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    Some people prefer much bigger frets on their instruments.... I mean, tell me Lawson that you've never felt like striking your guitar with a large mallet when it's being intractable?
    Bahaha. Learning vibraphone technique is actually taking me back to my brief guitar playing days! There are a lot of similarities in how you approach the single note playing. You have to work lil fingering cells or positions, you can't just run a whole scale willy nilly like on piano. Same thing on vibes with lil cells of patterns that you can stick economically. It's reminding me of when I worked the blues scale positions / modes on guitar, which I'm doing now on vibes. Also for single note you can't throw a bunch of notes in for chordal effect like on piano, you have to grab just a couple.
    Last edited by Al Haig; 02-28-2025 at 07:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    Apparently red would be more effective for helping you recall what you play, but if it's a difficult piece, green may help you feel more relaxed while playing it.
    One minute of blue, green or red-light exposure modifies the functional connectivity of neural networks
    that's an interesting article. I've just been trying out the different colors that I have available. All the colors have an immediate effect. Red, for instance, I immediately change. I should leave it on and explore the feeling, but it's very uncomfortable. It feels seedy and sleazy.

    Purple feels like a bad nightclub with shitty drinks. Magenta is new agey; that could be good or bad. Blue is relatively peaceful, as is green but in a different way. My favorite is orange and amber, because it gives me a sunny, endless summer, myth of Los Angeles vibe, which is super welcome in damp, cold, overcast Berlin. Regular white light is instantly a "let's get shit done" feeling.

    Oh, an interesting side effect is the reverse color after image that happens when going into regular lighting after being immersed in color. For instance, after being in green light for a time, everything has a purple hue when I turn on the regular lights. It lasts about a minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    Yeah man, just stay out of my way, and there won't be any trouble. Now if I can only stay out of my own way ...
    Dear Clifford,

    I thought we sounded great together on that recording we made with Max, where I played an octave down from you!

    best wishes,
    Harold

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    This thread has gone to sleep. I thought it was going to. Never mind, here's another tune. I can't just stop at the melody, sorry about that!


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    I love the tune "I'm Old Fashioned" and even danced with my daughter to it for the daddy-daughter dance at her wedding. Here's a shot at the melody.

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    Been working on Ceora a bit. Lotsa trills.


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    Just you and me, John :-)


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    I decided I need to know more than one Mingus tune (i.e., Pork Pie Hat), but this one is a sweep picking treadmill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    I decided I need to know more than one Mingus tune (i.e., Pork Pie Hat), but this one is a sweep picking treadmill.

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    WeeooohhhWeeeoooohhhh
    license and registration, sir
    are you aware of how many full CHORDS you were playing in this melody-only zone?

    but I'll let you go because, well, great playing, thanks, I really enjoyed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersoul
    WeeooohhhWeeeoooohhhh
    license and registration, sir
    are you aware of how many full CHORDS you were playing in this melody-only zone?

    but I'll let you go because, well, great playing, thanks, I really enjoyed it.
    Thank you. Yeah, I know, so many chords from the guy who was chiding folks here earlier about including them.

    I could of course play it without chords but it won't sound anywhere near as good. Mingus played it with his big band at a faster tempo. Don't think I could sweep pick it at his tempo, something to aspire to, that last line of the A section that spans one and a half octaves is tough.

    There's a version of this tune on YouTube by Andy Summers of the Police. He played it as a ballad with heavy reverb and it was just.... dreadful. Sorry, but I have no other word for it, Mingus would be rolling over in his grave.

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    I finally had to learn something new.




    Before the real book police come knocking.

    Last edited by AllanAllen; 03-11-2025 at 10:56 PM.

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    I've got another one. I wanted to do a bossa but not just one of the old Jobim favorites. Then I remembered this one by Luiz Bonfa (lovely player).

    If I can ramble on a bit, it's quite interesting. The best version is unquestionably the movie soundtrack although other vocalists have done it. But various jazzers have done it too as instrumentals. I'm sure you can find them. The worst is Miles who plays it as a straight swing tune so they can do their usual screaming sax stuff over it. I mean, really. I suppose it's all down to taste but I do feel that in many instances they're just spoiling a nice tune. However :-)

    But I can tell you that although it appears easy to improvise over, it's not. Not because it's too difficult but because it's too simple. Too pure, if you like. I tried approaching it the usual way like a standard but it didn't work. Try it yourself and see if you're interested, it's very hard work. So in the end I just played off the melody with a bit of variation.

    Last edited by ragman1; 03-23-2025 at 07:29 AM.

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    That was great Ragman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    But various jazzers have done it too as instrumentals. I'm sure you can find them. The worst is Miles who plays it as a straight swing tune so they can do their usual screaming sax stuff over it. I mean, really. I suppose it's all down to taste but I do feel that in many instances they're just spoiling a nice tune.
    Miles Davis never recorded Manha de Carnaval a.k.a. Black Orpheus.

    You probably looked at that dumb youtube compilation thing which is in fact Wayne Shorter and Freddie Hubbard, from the ‘Wayning Moments’ LP.

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    All I saw was this, in between hearing almost every other version, and listened to it for not very long. I bow to your expertise :-)

    (Freddie Hubbard, as you say)

    Last edited by ragman1; 03-12-2025 at 08:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    That was great Ragman.
    Thanks. Only after a lot of trial and error, I guarantee :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    That was great Ragman.
    Yes, it was nice.

    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    But I can tell you that although it appears easy to improvise over, it's not. Not because it's too difficult but because it's too simple. Too pure, if you like.
    You have to practice soloing. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    All I saw was this, in between hearing almost every other version, and listened to it for not very long. I bow to your expertise :-)

    (Freddie Hubbard, as you say)

    yes that is a very weird compilation, Miles is not present on either of those albums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    yes that is a very weird compilation, Miles is not present on either of those albums.
    Apparently he is according to the CD track listing on this link. There are 10 CD's. He's on all but the last one, no. 10, which is just Wayne Shorter and Hank Mobley. That's got Wayning Moments and Black Orpheus on it.

    Actually, the whole thing doesn't look too bad for £15. Except they're sold out :-)

    MILES DAVIS AND HIS FAVORITE TENORS - MILESTONES OF JAZZ LEGENDS (10 C
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    I have most of Miles Davis' albums and I do not remember that he has ever played this iconic bossa-nove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    I've got another one. I wanted to do a bossa but not just one of the old Jobim favorites. Then I remembered this one by Luiz Bonfa (lovely player).

    If I can ramble on a bit, it's quite interesting. The best version is unquestionably the movie soundtrack although other vocalists have done it. But various jazzers have done it too as instrumentals. I'm sure you can find them. The worst is Miles who plays it as a straight swing tune so they can do their usual screaming sax stuff over it. I mean, really. I suppose it's all down to taste but I do feel that in many instances they're just spoiling a nice tune. However :-)

    But I can tell you that although it appears easy to improvise over, it's not. Not because it's too difficult but because it's too simple. Too pure, if you like. I tried approaching it the usual way like a standard but it didn't work. Try it yourself and see if you're interested, it's very hard work. So in the end I just played off the melody with a bit of variation.

    Well known as the original song from the 'Black Orpheus' film.

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    It's now officially Spring. If I remember correctly, Mr. Beaumont originally proposed "The Winter of Just The Melody" but I think I'll add a couple more. I have found that a few months of this exercise has increased my ability to play melodies I hear, being able to hit those intervals on the fly much better than a few months ago. That's what it feels like, anyhow.

    Here's Darn That Dream:

    Last edited by Ukena; 03-23-2025 at 01:07 PM.

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    Basically, I'd hope this thread could carry on forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Basically, I'd hope this thread could carry on forever.
    It will. Good lord, it's on page 33 already!

    You've lost some of mine because I had to renew my Soundcloud page which involves deletions. It wasn't done in a fit of pique! But there will be more. I think people will remember or discover tunes that need looking at and come back to do them. Well, hopefully :-)