Is it mostly good or bad advice here?

[brent.h]

this you?

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[wolflen]

Hobby players seem to be constantly jumping to the next thing, without finishing the last thing.

It takes me more than a month of concentrated practice to really get into a single subject.

I find that learning Jazz guitar is slow process over a long, long, long time.

Maybe, there's too much advice on the forum.

I find the thread on "scales" applies to your point.

Allen Holdsworth said in an interview something to the effect..It takes about two years to really learn a scale.

Giving all the implications of that statement..I find it to be true. I sometime still practice really basic stuff.

I think if you have been bitten by the "bug" you may find you have little choice but to continue to learn more about ALL aspects of music.

And for me it is a life long journey.

Regarding the "too much advice"..Perhaps..some threads with over 200 posts may qualify--as they may tend to go off on a tangent..so to speak.

[pamosmusic]

Allen Holdsworth said in an interview something to the effect..It takes about two years to really learn a scale.

Sounds about right.

[rpjazzguitar]

If all the advice here was good -- all of it -- there would still be the potential for a bad side-effect. In fact, the better all the advice was, the worse the side-effect could be.

I'm referring to getting distracted from the path you're already on.

It can be a problem. Don't ask me how I know.

[brent.h]

From your experience, what are some persistent myths that still exist today that continue to do a disservice (or has been harmful) to learning?

Also, have there been instances where you've uncovered a maxim or some 'received wisdom' that turned out to be false/harmful?

[rpjazzguitar]

From your experience, what are some persistent myths that still exist today that continue to do a disservice (or has been harmful) to learning?

Also, have there been instances where you've uncovered a maxim or some 'received wisdom' that turned out to be false/harmful?

It's hard to think of something persistent that is harmful. Most of the persistent advice is perfectly reasonable, including things that are contradictory.

But one thing does come to mind. The idea of a "well-rounded jazz musician". It implies you need to be a master of a lot of different things.

I know a couple of people like that, but I know some very successful people who aren't like that.

For example, a so-called well-rounded jazz musician should certainly know how to read. Yet, neither Wes, Django nor Tal was a reader.

A well rounded player should be able to use up-strokes, but Charlie Christian, reportedly, did not, or did so rarely.

A well rounded player should know some theory, but Andres Varady made the cover of GP and didn't know any traditional theory whatsoever. At least, not the way it appears in books on theory.

I recently posted a thread I called Giving Up on this topic. I had to stop trying to be "well-rounded" (which I was failing at) and, instead, try to develop things I had a shot at being successful with. This worked for me, or so I think, but I did it pretty late in life. I don't know if it's good advice for a young player.

[Christian Miller]

Being a well rounded jazz musician is to a significant extent measured by how many old musical theatre numbers you know by heart.

I didn’t realise at age 18 as a fan of Zappa and Coltrane that that’s what I was getting into, but here we are lol.

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[CliffR]

There's great advice to be had here from a number of professional players and educators, as well as some seasoned amateurs. I mostly tend to ignore advice from folks who I don't rate as being in a place where I eventually want to be. If you spend time on the forum you learn whose advice is worth listening to. Opinions concerning taste and musical preference are a separate thing, of course - everyone's thoughts on those is valid.

[Sigmund451]

I have not seen much bad advice but there are a few occasions where the advice is really not helpful.
Its free advice so I figure if you get better than what you paid for you made out

If someone is following a single piece of advice on the internet from strangers Id question their judgement.
I ask, I do searches, I look at trends and then I make a decision. If its a wrong choice its my fault.

[GuyBoden]

What some of us lack is 'Mutual Respect' of another's viewpoint on particular Jazz guitar subjects. (This includes myself.)

This is probably due to the large amount of time invested into a particular Jazz guitar subject and the passion for that subject.

In the future, I'm going to try not to post in a thread where I don't agree with a particular viewpoint.