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Came across these chords at rehearsal last night.
What does the : mean?
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11-28-2023 02:08 PM
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Looks like it's just a lowercase i
So Fmi7-- is Fm7
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I agree especially since "ma" is used when it is a major.
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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One of my many pet peeves on handwritten charts
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Never seen it before, but it certainly looks like minor is written m: and major is written ma.
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It looks like a colon, but it's really a dotted " i ". If you look at the maj chords, he's using ma for those, so his convention is consistent.
Originally Posted by BBGuitar
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I'd guess that this writer got complaints about an earlier chart (one without the dots) -- that the players couldn't distinguish minor from major.
I agree that it looks like a colon and that it can be read, successfully, as a dotted i. But, a dotted i isn't two equal dots, so my guess is that it's just an idiosyncratic way of making minor and major look different. Or it could be a strange looking dotted i like Patrick already said.
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the major chords have only one dot..so it appears to distinguish between minor two dots and major one dot
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I haven't seen this "C2" chord notation on a common lead sheet, apparently it's a C add9 (C-E-G-D). Somewhat odd in that they notated the G add9 as G/A. The tune is Wichita Lineman.
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Is it meant to be an ‘i’?
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The C2? It's a major chord.
Originally Posted by Christian Miller
Actually, I just found another chart in which it is called C(add9) so I suppose this new chart solves the riddle but raises new ones, e.g., the G/A in the first measure of the old chart is now called an Am7(add 4), which is quite different - but all of this could probably be cleared up by listening to Glen Campbell. Jimmy Webb wrote some cool chord changes.
Last edited by Mick-7; 09-22-2024 at 01:15 PM.
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There's a youtube video of Glen Campbell playing it solo, on the Craig Kilborn show. He just plays a Csus2, going and forth with a Bb major triad at the 10th fret. There's even a good shot of his hands.
Originally Posted by Mick-7
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I mean the letter ‘i’
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Yea I think it's just 'i'. Whoever hand wrote this charts has a daytime job prolly a doctor.
Originally Posted by BBGuitar
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The string figure in that part of the song was supposedly composed by Carol Kaye in the studio but it's almost identical to the one that runs through Nights in White Satin from the previous year. An unconscious memory perhaps?
Originally Posted by Mick-7
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I had to go and listen to both. I hear what you're talking aboput. Something must have been in the air.
Originally Posted by PMB
One sounds like "heavenly clouds of regret" and the other one sounds like "atmospheric radio static rippling thru a longing heart."
In the Moody Blues I hear mellotrons (choir, flute and string settings?) while I hear a real orchestra in Wichita Lineman. I know there is also an electronic theater organ set to "funny" or "sci-fi," per Jimmy Webb. During the "still on the line" Csus2 BbMaj part there's a soft attack flute that reminds me of a distant morse code thru a fog.
edit: I'm wrong about the mellotrons! On the back of the Moody Blues album it says "with the London Festival Orchestra"Last edited by supersoul; 09-25-2024 at 09:53 AM.
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Agreed, but I'd say there are 2 authors then. The doctor, and then a pharmacist who scribbled his or her interpretation above the hieroglyphs
Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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It's a lie, they actually recorded it with the Manchester Mellotron Festival Orchestra.
Originally Posted by supersoul
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It most certainly isn't Mellotron! I decided to check out the entire album because I've never investigated the Moody Blues. It's a cross between Muzak and the soundtrack to a musical. Utterly lame! But it is a real orchestra... unfortunately. It would have been so much better with Mellotrons.
Originally Posted by Mick-7
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Kind of a parody of themselves at that point, their '60's albums are the best, for example:
Originally Posted by supersoul
https://www.allmusic.com/album/days-...d-mw0000201054
www.allmusic.com/album/on-the-threshold-of-a-dream-mw0000626725
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Days of Future Passed is the album I'm talking about, from '67. Nights in White Satin is the last track. If that's their best...
Originally Posted by Mick-7
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Always preferred this version:
Originally Posted by supersoul
Bought this album once at a flea market, might be something for a Milli Vanilli fan
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I thought you were referring to this album -- Days of Future Passed Live - The Moody Blues | AllMusic
Originally Posted by supersoul
Or the album before it -- Live at the Royal Albert Hall | AllMusic
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What has any of these later posts have to do with chord notation?
What happened to staying on track?



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