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    A three note chord has the notes C#-A-E.

    It's passing chord, but what is the chord name for C#-A-E ?

    The preceding chord is the three note chord CM6. (C-A-E)

    The three note chord after C#-A-E is Dm6 (D-B-F)

    So, I'm struggling to find a sensible name for this three note chord with the notes C#-A-E.

    (Part) Chord progression:
    C-A-E
    C#-A-E
    D-B-F

    It's much easier to play than to find appropriate Chord names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBoden
    A three note chord has the notes C#-A-E.

    It's passing chord, but what is the chord name for C#-A-E ?

    The preceding chord is the three note chord CM6. (C-A-E)

    The three note chord after C#-A-E is Dm6 (D-B-F)

    So, I'm struggling to find a sensible name for this three note chord with the notes C#-A-E.

    (Part) Chord progression:
    C-A-E
    C#-A-E
    D-B-F

    It's much easier to play than to find appropriate Chord names.
    Perhaps the dominant of Dm6?

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    It's Amaj/C# tonicizing the Dminor chord that comes after. It's a dominant passing chord. It's a dominant chord without the 7th which is very common outside of jazz. It is in first inversion which creates a chromatic voice leading in the bass (also very common).

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    A?

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    My god what has this forum done to us

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    Actually it's taught me a lot. I'm better than when I arrived about 20 years ago.

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    I don't understand, guys? They are triads?

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    A/C#

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBoden
    A three note chord has the notes C#-A-E.

    It's passing chord, but what is the chord name for C#-A-E ?

    The preceding chord is the three note chord CM6. (C-A-E)

    The three note chord after C#-A-E is Dm6 (D-B-F)

    So, I'm struggling to find a sensible name for this three note chord with the notes C#-A-E.

    (Part) Chord progression:
    C-A-E
    C#-A-E
    D-B-F

    It's much easier to play than to find appropriate Chord names.
    I could call the progression Amin/C, A/C#, Bmin/D. That would be AN answer, but who knows if it's THE answer? What's the tune, key signature, melody? Is there a bass part below the chord? Etc., etc. Chords don't have names outside of context and you're not giving us enough of that to do anything other than invent one and squeeze an answer into that.

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    Sure, but I'll just say this:

    These are the most basic triads; major, minor, and diminished. I know there are other ones

    This move could be found in 1687

    The question was name not function

    No additional bass note was mentioned

    edit: your stuff is right and fancy stuff is great...it's just that this isn't fancy

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    Guys ………….. really?

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    Hahaha this thread

    Guy, when I saw the voicings you listed, not even a split-second I was like, "oh those are freddie green shells i play all the time in C"

    8th fret: C6, A7/C#, D-6 or G7/D

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    Quote Originally Posted by brent.h
    Hahaha this thread
    hmm. maybe has been over complicated, but can't say I agree with laughing in people's online faces

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758
    hmm. maybe has been over complicated, but can't say I agree with laughing in people's online faces
    Chill bruh, was laughing more at pete's and rag's reactions more than anything else. Wasn't coming from a place of condescension or laughing at the musical content being discussed. (And if i was being condescending, I wouldn't have contributed my observations of the freddie green thingy i saw immediately)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBoden

    (Part) Chord progression:
    C-A-E
    C#-A-E
    D-B-F
    Sounds to me like

    A minor
    A major
    then
    D diminished probably followed by E major flat nine
    or
    D minor sixth probably followed by G dom. seventh

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBoden

    It's passing chord, but what is the chord name for C#-A-E ?

    The preceding chord is the three note chord CM6. (C-A-E)

    The three note chord after C#-A-E is Dm6 (D-B-F)

    I don't understand how you can be so confident that the preceeding chord "is" CM6, and the following chord "is" Dm6 ...and yet you don't know what the C#-A-E trichord "is" ?!?!

    Think about what value there is in calling/naming a simultaneity of pitch classes anything; e.g., what are you achieving by saying C-A-E "is" CM6? Does it help you understand how that simultaneity functions in the context of the entire tune? Or, does it make it more efficient to recognize how to execute that simultaneity on your instrument?

    Once you know what it is you are looking for -- information, shortcuts/shorthand, insight, etc. -- it becomes much easier to find an appropriate name for a simultaneity
    ...so long as you also understand that naming something doesn't necessarily mean that's what that something "is".

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    Yes, they are very simple Freddie Green style three note chords.

    I've resorted to asking Artificial Intelligence. (AI to the rescue. A Major)

    But, I'm calling it an 'F#m7/C#' chord, not sure if this is much help.

    For context, here is the 4 bars of Summertime. Note the last chord F#m7/C# has the notes C#-A-E.
    Three note chords C#-A-E. What chord name?-summertime-4-bars-png
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_Ross
    I don't understand how you can be so confident that the preceeding chord "is" CM6, and the following chord "is" Dm6 ...and yet you don't know what the C#-A-E trichord "is" ?!?!

    Think about what value there is in calling/naming a simultaneity of pitch classes anything; e.g., what are you achieving by saying C-A-E "is" CM6? Does it help you understand how that simultaneity functions in the context of the entire tune? Or, does it make it more efficient to recognize how to execute that simultaneity on your instrument?

    Once you know what it is you are looking for -- information, shortcuts/shorthand, insight, etc. -- it becomes much easier to find an appropriate name for a simultaneity
    ...so long as you also understand that naming something doesn't necessarily mean that's what that something "is".
    I have no trouble playing the chords, but the problem is naming them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brent.h
    Hahaha this thread

    Guy, when I saw the voicings you listed, not even a split-second I was like, "oh those are freddie green shells i play all the time in C"

    8th fret: C6, A7/C#, D-6 or G7/D
    And that's exactly what he wasn't doing :-)

    This is becoming absurd. But at least the OP is the centre of attention. Temporarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    I could call the progression Amin/C, A/C#, Bmin/D. That would be AN answer, but who knows if it's THE answer? What's the tune, key signature, melody? Is there a bass part below the chord? Etc., etc. Chords don't have names outside of context and you're not giving us enough of that to do anything other than invent one and squeeze an answer into that.
    It's Summertime, John. Somewhere there's a chart with it all notated out. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2758
    hmm. maybe has been over complicated, but can't say I agree with laughing in people's online faces
    ooops

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    You can’t name a shell off what you kept, you need to figure out the rest of the chord, and the role it’s playing.

    If the next chord is Dm are you sure your triad isn’t C# A# E? That’ll give you a C# diminished leading into the Dm. Nice and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieAG
    A/C#

    Thank you, I'd be happy to call the chord "A/C#".

    In context, I think that the notes C#-A-E could also be called a "F#m7/C#" chord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBoden
    A three note chord has the notes C#-A-E.

    It's passing chord, but what is the chord name for C#-A-E ?

    The preceding chord is the three note chord CM6. (C-A-E)

    The three note chord after C#-A-E is Dm6 (D-B-F)

    So, I'm struggling to find a sensible name for this three note chord with the notes C#-A-E.

    (Part) Chord progression:
    C-A-E
    C#-A-E
    D-B-F

    It's much easier to play than to find appropriate Chord names.
    It's Am/C A/C# D-6 (or Bo/D)

    Functionally - a classic applied/secondary dominant moving to the IV chord. Very common in classical music.

    Putting it in first inversion creates a nice bassline.

    For example

    Am Am/C A/C# D-6 B/D# Am/E Esus4 E

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    Count me in as liking the A#.

    But if I play an A7 there it obviously works, so I'd call it an A/C# if I wanted to be specific. But honestly, the C# A E voicing just doesn't have the pull of C# A# E...

    Or get stretchy and play C# A G