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It does multiple notes. If you click on the little "alien" face under the play button once you go into an exercise, you can set quite a few parameters including how many notes you want it to play as well as how many simultaneously. I downloaded and tried the Ultimate Ears. It's basically the same thing as the app that I'm recommending, but does not have a graduated path/system, nor the level of configuration and feedback. Also, the FET app lets you create and save custom exercises.
Last edited by Sabicas; 09-29-2016 at 12:13 AM.
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09-29-2016 12:04 AM
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I've downloaded the FET app and had a go at the first exercise. Glad to say I got 100% but it was only the first exercise, no doubt it gets harder later.
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Thanks, that's useful. Actually this app has some nice features. I like the misleading pairs thing.
Originally Posted by Sabicas
Last edited by christianm77; 09-29-2016 at 05:26 AM.
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I just downloaded it too. Seems cool. Only spent a few minutes with it. Definitely can see the value of the stepwise introduction into the notes that UET is lacking. I didn't learn this skill from an app, and I could see how it would be a bit overwhelming to just be thrown into the deep end to figure it all out... but still possible.
I learned from a guy who taught similar to how it sounds like BA and possible Charlie Banacos may have taught. He was an ear training teacher I had one semester during my grad program. Came from the classical world, but INSANE ears and had this whole way of approaching all this stuff that was brand new for me. And in a way, he sort of baby stepped us into it. He didn't try and make us perfect the system in one class but spread it out over a few weeks. But as he, you, and this app all said... the important thing is really to hit this stuff a few minutes every day. I spent several weeks-months being okay-ish at this, because I was just working on it once or twice a week when I went to the class. But he taught us how to do it just by sitting at the piano, and I had access to them... and once I committed to sitting at a piano 5-10 minutes a day to practice, I had it down pretty quickly. So my app lacking in the step-by-step never bothered me. Curious to see how far this particular app goes though, as I would like to keep pushing. I've got the 12 chromatic notes down pretty much no problem. Definitely interested in pushing the boundary further regarding diatonic and non-diatonic groupings of multiple notes. I didn't see the alien face, but I'm going to look for it.
I'm a little confused Christian. Who's method are you talking about? BA? Or this Alain Benbassat guy that the app talks about? Originally Posted by christianm77
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I am stuggling with exactly the original posters issue. I really want to hear chords but i can't just in my head say oh yeh there's a min7b5 etc. Some are easy such as the #9 that Hendrix used, or b9 that is similar with the top note dropped a tone and a few others, but even simple stuff like a min7 (which I know functions as other things) isn't immediately recognisable to me. However I can pretty much always tell what tune is being played even if I hear from half way through a chorus during a solo (for example if I walk into a pub with a jazz band playing) so there must be something distinctive enough about those chords being played against each other to recognise a progression, even if in isolation I can't tell what they are. I am convinced that after long enough listening and playing tunes it will get easier. If it doesn't, don't tell me that as I may give up, I need some hope in order to perservere. Even though I'm a crap player, and have little grounds to give advice, I can still say that learning tunes and transcribing have been the most effective excercises for me.
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I couldn't find the alien face either. Like Jordan I have 12 notes singly down, but I'm looking forward to doing multiple ones.
Anyway BA seems to have revised his approach. Now I'm onto recognising notes against different keys (the mirror image of the app) and then once that's mastered it's onto two chromatic pitches simultaneously.
In the app it steps up and down the scale after it plays the note. I think that's a bit of crutch tbh.
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To get the alien face, go into the settings cogwheel on the initial opening screen and select 'enable advanced mode in the basic levels'. Originally Posted by christianm77
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Ta! Originally Posted by grahambop
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Ha ha that's why I work in systems and I'm not a musician! Originally Posted by christianm77
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Can you turn off the cadence entirely in FET? That's one of the things I love about UET. It's fun to listen to the cadence once, than turn it off and see how long I can keep the key center in mind without losing track of my syllables. Especially when working in all the chromatic notes as well. The diatonic notes are relatively easy... but keeping track of all 12 notes without reinforcing the key center in between each is a tough and fun challenge.
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Just spotted where you can alter this cadence setting. This little guy might just take over my UET app. Lookout!
Thanks for this one guys.
Though I agree that the playing of the scale degrees up or down to the tonic after each one is a little bit of a crutch. I could see it being helpful at the very early stages, but it is a little tiresome. I'm imagining there's probably a setting to turn this off. I'll have to keep looking for it.
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Seconded. I suppose we could try and contact the developer if not. Originally Posted by jordanklemons
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Pleasantly surprised to find this available for android as well: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...d=Kaizen9+Apps Originally Posted by Sabicas
Nice app.
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Ok. Here's one for identifying chord progressions. It's called "Ch!Ear - Cord Ear". Strange name but looks pretty good. I suck at it.
Last edited by Sabicas; 10-03-2016 at 01:52 AM.
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