Dexterity

[Mick-7]

Do you honestly expect an explanation this reasonable, this common-sensical, this simple... to be accepted? Seriously? Let me introduce you to the internet...

Actually, the part of Peter's thesis that no one, on or off line, would accept is the idea of "copyist etiquette" - that's an oxymoron.

[pamosmusic]

I play it almost exactly as Peter did at the beginning of his video (3rd fret position) although he played D rather than Ab (to Eb) in the third bar, which is easier.

You know me. I'm all shortcuts all day.

[tramline]

Reading this thread broke my brain a little bit.. but what a great excuse to try a tune that I've always skipped over in the past. As usual with this kind of playing I tend to feel dumber the more I play it, especially after learning the real book version and then trying to get that Ab in bar 3 down. Fun stuff!

[PMB]

I play the 'A' section mostly around the 3rd position and find this fingering works well if you want to incorporate the Ab:

[Mick-7]

I play the 'A' section mostly around the 3rd position and find this fingering works well if you want to incorporate the Ab

I would normally play the Ab there (D string, 6th fret) with my pinky but if I did use my 3rd finger instead and used all down strokes, I'd probably play it like this (below) and pull off the note D (to B) on the G string. You people are going to ruin my playing!

[PMB]

I would normally play the Ab there (D string, 6th fret) with my pinky but if I did use my 3rd finger instead and used all down strokes, I'd probably play it like this (below) and pull off the note D (to B) on the G string. You people are going to ruin my playing!


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Yes, I can see that as a solution. I like the note 'D' on the B string because I can then avoid using the weaker 4th finger and retain the same shape/outline - Ab, Eb move down together to D, (B), G.

[Mick-7]

If you thought the A section was difficult, the real fingering challenges arise when you try to play the B section in the same register as the A section (on the lower strings).

[AllanAllen]

You know, I didn’t feel like the deedley deedley do part was hard until I read someone was having difficulty. Now I trip up every time, BE COOL BE COOL DON’T BIFF IF, AHH YOU BIFFED IT.

[AllanAllen]

Half of the bridge.

[Mick-7]

Half of the bridge.

o.k., but you took the easy way out - playing it up an octave.

[PMB]

If you're playing Parker's line, it does go up an octave.

[supersoul]

If you're playing Parker's line, it does go up an octave.

He definitely goes up an octave for the bridge. As far as difficulty, I don't think it matters which octave it's played in.

[Christian Miller]

Actually, the part of Peter's thesis that no one, on or off line, would accept is the idea of "copyist etiquette" - that's an oxymoron.

Tell me you’ve never been moaned at by a horn player for your charts without telling me…


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[pamosmusic]

Tell me you’ve never been moaned at by a horn player for your charts without telling me…


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amen

[AllanAllen]

Something I've noticed. I think I'm holding the pick with my fingers closed, like Jimmy Bruno and Pasquale Grasso, but in these videos I have my pinky and ring finger on the guitar. Something else in my playing posture to work on.

Can I put out a suggestion to do a Dizzy Gillespie tune next?

[pamosmusic]

Something I've noticed. I think I'm holding the pick with my fingers closed, like Jimmy Bruno and Pasquale Grasso, but in these videos I have my pinky and ring finger on the guitar. Something else in my playing posture to work on.

Can I put out a suggestion to do a Dizzy Gillespie tune next?

Oh yeah man. Which is on the brain?

I would love to do something like Birks Works. I haven’t learned that one before.

Hot House would be fun too, which isn’t but I always associate it with Dizzy.

[AllanAllen]

Briks Works is relatively simple. It's in my repertoire so if it's picked I'll do all the positions like you do. It's a good minor blues head, kind of like spy music.

I never learned Groovin High so that would be my pick. Hot House is good too. Dizzy Atmosphere got me thinking about it, since it's on the next page of the Realbook.

[supersoul]

If we want to really kick our own asses, Dizzy's tune "Bebop" is an absolute beast.

[GuyBoden]

If we want to really kick our own asses, Dizzy's tune "Bebop" is an absolute beast.

I don't think we should ever consider Fats Navarro "Goin' to Minton's". (I'd never get past the intro.)

[Mick-7]

If you're playing Parker's line, it does go up an octave.

I was going by the Real Book chart that was posted, which has the bridge in the same register as the A section -- Dexterity

As I said, it's easier to play an octave higher than that.

I don't think we should ever consider Fats Navarro "Goin' to Minton's". (I'd never get past the intro.)

Alright, but will I required to puff my cheeks out like a blowfish a la Dizzy and Fats when I play the tunes mentioned?

[PMB]

I was going by the Real Book chart that was posted, which has the bridge in the same register as the A section -- Dexterity

Miles plays the 'A' section an octave higher than Bird but they're at unison for the bridge. That said, taking each section through different octaves and positions like Peter Amos has demonstrated is a great exercise.

[AllanAllen]

Rest of the bridge.

[tramline]

I definitely like the bridge in the same register as the a section, but I haven't found a real comfortable fingering for those first four bars. Working on it!

[AllanAllen]

all right, now to smooth things out and get the metronome up.

https://youtu.be/3h4IV41nEUg?si=ZeZ8DPeLJdBGe_Ug

[Christian Miller]

Metronome is a good idea but actually I suggest playing it along with the original, slowed down and looped.

You’ll be able to spot any mistakes a little better as well.

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