Dexterity

[Mick-7]

Play All of Me with the chords … are you hitting the changes or are you just not disagreeing with them too offensively?

I was kidding you but... are you suggesting that people should practice improvising on tunes with just a metronome? I can see merit in that, how about you?

[pamosmusic]

I was kidding you but... are you suggesting that people should practice improvising on tunes with just a metronome? I can see merit in that, how about you?

Abso-fruitly I am.

[GuyBoden]

I've had a bad infection in my arm most of the week from a Horsefly bite, but I'm back playing guitar again.

I'm still practicing Dexterity Section A.

[Christian Miller]

I was kidding you but... are you suggesting that people should practice improvising on tunes with just a metronome? I can see merit in that, how about you?

That’s the way I practice them.


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[Mick-7]

That’s the way I practice them.

I think I'd prefer a horsefly bite.

[pamosmusic]

I think I'd prefer a horsefly bite.

Soooooo you always practice with a track?

[Mick-7]

Soooooo you always practice with a track?

Nah, that was my clumsy attempt at humor, I usually practice improvising without one. But I tend to outline the changes when I'm playing against dead air, which is not beneficial to me because I can already do that well. So, re: your comment, "the chords do the work for you," it's just the opposite for me, a metronome with no backing track will constrain my playing.

[Christian Miller]

Is that a fact?

[Mick-7]

Is that a fact?

Yes, I guess I just need a sound canvas to paint on, without one I draw stick figures - when improvising anyway.

[pamosmusic]

Yes, I guess I just need a sound canvas to paint on, without one I draw stick figures.

See … if I draw stick figures on Van Gogh’s sunflowers or something, I might be inclined to mistake the sunflowers for my own work.

[AllanAllen]

I don’t understand how keeping time will constrain your playing. It’s all going to fall apart when you play with someone else who expects time.

[Mick-7]

I don’t understand how keeping time will constrain your playing. It’s all going to fall apart when you play with someone else who expects time.

Oh, I was talking about improvising, not working on rhythms, a metronome is good for that.

[pamosmusic]

Oh, I was talking about improvising, not working on rhythms, a metronome is good for that.

Uh oh … he’s implying working on improvisation does not mean working on rhythm.

Somebody get this man a life jacket.

[AllanAllen]

You need to improvise in time though.

[charlieparker]

Dexterity with part of the bridge and some cringe worthy vocalizations that make Jarrett sound sonorous.

For some reason, if I don't vocalize I tend to get lost.

I also recorded the bass and comping.

[Mick-7]

Uh oh … he’s implying working on improvisation does not mean working on rhythm.
Somebody get this man a life jacket.

You need to improvise in time though.

The topic of conversation was using a metronome vs. using a backing track. I only use backing tracks that have a rhythm (could just be a recording of my comping) - i.e., I don't use a drone (tanpura, etc.) as a backing track. Drones in Indian Music

[GuyBoden]

What is improving by playing along with these original Bebop Heads slowed down is articulation.

[pamosmusic]

The topic of conversation was using a metronome vs. using a backing track. I only use backing tracks that have a rhythm (could just be a recording of my comping) - i.e., I don't use a drone (tanpura, etc.) as a backing track. Drones in Indian Music

Well yeah I didn’t figure you were …

[AllanAllen]

Welp, I'm still all turned around comping rhythm changes. I can't get it to swing and move, it's just CHORD CHORD CHORD CHORD CHORD then the bridge is like coming up for a breath of air.

[James W]

Welp, I'm still all turned around comping rhythm changes. I can't get it to swing and move, it's just CHORD CHORD CHORD CHORD CHORD then the bridge is like coming up for a breath of air.

I'm by no means an expert but from the videos I've watched and the music I've listened to I know that you can often simplify the A section, essentially turning it into a series of I-V-Is (get rid of the VI and ii chords) and so on. Jens Larsen has talked about this, as has Christian no doubt.

[AllanAllen]

Christian's video about making riffs from the bass line was interesting, but in the end, it added complexity to something I don't have a foundational grasp on yet. A lot of R.C. comping stuff starts with complicating the 2 chords a bar blitz I already can't handle.

[James W]

Christian's video about making riffs from the bass line was interesting, but in the end, it added complexity to something I don't have a foundational grasp on yet. A lot of R.C. comping stuff starts with complicating the 2 chords a bar blitz I already can't handle.

Check out Jens's stuff on Rhythm Changes on youtube.

[bediles]

Christian's video about making riffs from the bass line was interesting, but in the end, it added complexity to something I don't have a foundational grasp on yet. A lot of R.C. comping stuff starts with complicating the 2 chords a bar blitz I already can't handle.

When the tempo is up you don't need to play every chord. If you do it actually can sound worse.

[AllanAllen]

When the tempo is up you don't need to play every chord. If you do it actually can sound worse.

So, what do you do? Like, actually, what do you do in this situation?

[pamosmusic]

So, what do you do? Like, actually, what do you do in this situation?

I start with I and V … if you add sideslipping in, and maybe as you get comfortable, little suspensions or whatever, then you’ve got a lot of the more complex changes built into that.

If I’m playing in a swingy-er situation or maybe in a duo or something, then I have like a half dozen little chord licks that I use on the first four. Keeping the time is the important part there anyway. And the back half of the A is easier for me.