Matteo Mancuso burns

[pamosmusic]

There is an issue of terminology here.

Monk would not be one of the Songbook composers.

Jazz composer through and through.

[unknownguitarplayer]

I recall the first lesson I had with Dave Creamer, in which he scolded me for the lack of dynamics in my playing and gave me exercises to develop it.

+1 for the Dave Creamer shout-out. Would love to hear more about that.

[Groyniad]

There is an issue of terminology here.

Monk would not be one of the Songbook composers.

Jazz composer through and through.

I was just trying to illustrate the basic point about on-beat music and on-beat-bucking music.

when I started to take arrangement seriously on guitar I was very struck by how much it was the syncopation in the melodies which made them worth arranging nicely - and made it possible to sound cool playing arrangements of them.

I'm certainly not denying that when you hear bill Evans playing 'i love you' you get way more groovy syncopation for your dollar than you get when you read CP's lead sheet. The point is just that there's bar-subversion built into the simplest songbook tunes - and it is a big part of what makes them so cool.

[bediles]

I would say this an aspect of the genre that I call ‘clinician fusion’. Everything is super chord scale based.

You don’t get the chaos of Holdsworth, Benson etc.

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I was thinking the same thing on Blues for John. Chord tones on the downbeats, baby and keep it within the barlines.

Great playing though

[grahambop]

Then why are there comments like:
"Yes, its amazing that he can play this, but jist as amazing that he learned it note for note at this speed and with this kind of precission and feel"

Someone else says that he only removed Cuber's solo, not Benson's.

Because those people are making assumptions (as I did initially) and haven’t compared it to the Benson solo properly?

If you compare it, they are different. (Both Benson takes are on youtube).

Also note that on one take, Benson solos first, on the other, Cuber solos first. No idea which take Matteo used to get the backing.

[Christian Miller]

I admit I'm baffled that people describe his playing here as 'clinician fusion' unless Christian was referring to something else?

I don't think he's any more formulaic than anyone else playing an up tempo bop tune either. Probably what sets him apart though is his technique, with the softer and smoother sound of nails + flesh and the fact that it makes arpeggios and intervallic stuff more manageable.

Yeah I mean that’s not fusion. Sorry I think I was thinking more of MM’s fusion/straight 8 stuff. Disregard etc etc


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[pamosmusic]

Are we arguing about what people are saying in the YouTube comments?

Can't we all just argue about the Great American Songbook like normal people?

[AllanAllen]

Fantastic, what a talent. He's fast yes, but also very musical.

Reminds me of Roy Clark, or Jerry Reed chicken pickin. Not the best example, but really vanilla notes and clean technique. Wish I played that clean at that speed.

Roy Clark's impressive fast licks "Racing The Mule" - YouTube

[sgcim]

That's really bad sir. Where is your head at where you think a musician at master level has the 'inability to use dynamic or rhythmic variation'? He's deliberately playing even rhythmically and dynamically for a tight effect. You think he lacks that ability like he's an inferior musician in that regard? Lol! Most music doesn't display every ideal fundamental characteristic. That's like if you said Johnny Cash sux because his music doesn't have BH harmony in it.. Most non-classical guitarists lack dynamic expression? That's really bad.

I didn't listen to the video with the electric bass player. He plays "Nardis", "Donna Lee and a blues great on this. I take back everything I said about him, and will cleverly delete all my previous posts. I just hope this guy never comes to the US. Somebody tell him Europe is a much better place to live, and that if he comes to the US, he'll probably get knifed on the subway like everyone else is getting these days. Stay away, Matteo! Please...
And Graham, I take back all I said about him, as the King of Google you should delete all of your responses to my idiot posts. It's the least you can do as KOG! LOL!

[pamosmusic]

Did it occur to anyone else that maybe we misinterpreted the meaning of "burn" in the title of the post?

[AllanAllen]

that if he comes to the US, he'll probably get knifed on the subway like everyone else is getting these days.

Disinformation, violent crime is way down.

Conservative media is telling you otherwise to scare you.

U.S. violent and property crime rates have plunged since 1990s, regardless of data source | Pew Research Center

This isn’t political, these are facts about reality.

[AllanAllen]

Did it occur to anyone else that maybe we misinterpreted the meaning of "burn" in the title of the post?

BURN IT ALL!! See above for context.

[starjasmine]

Man maybe 15-20? Probably a half dozen times on his own and then I worked at a club where he played 6-8 dates a year with The Doctor Lonnie Smith.

^^^ Jealous :-)

That's freakin' AWESOME, dude!

[murrayatuptown]

Reminder:

Don't read YouTub comments: That's where the YouTub zombies live, in their mothers' basements.

[GuyBoden]

Burnin'

[Boss Man Zwiebelsohn]

I was hoping for a video fo Matteo smoking a spliff. Now I am dissapointed.

[Christian Miller]

I feel that the number one issue with young players is that they struggle to find a context for their playing. No one under 30 these days watches things longer than about a minute. So there’s this sort of effect of these virtuosi floating around on the web devoid of the context of a performing career and music in a wider sense.

Btw This accusation can’t be levelled against Matteo because he is out there playing gigs.

Matteo’s bag is wider than instrumental guitar rock and there are some interesting touches in his compositions. I’ll check back.

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[AllanAllen]

I’m sad nobody took my troll bait.

[Christian Miller]

I’m sad nobody took my troll bait.

Which post was that?


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[Mick-7]

I’m sad nobody took my troll bait.

I couldn't tell if it was troll bait or a sensible suggestion, although it could be considered both.

I feel that the number one issue with young players is that they struggle to find a context for their playing. No one under 30 these days watches things longer than about a minute. So there’s this sort of effect of these virtuosi floating around on the web devoid of the context of a performing career and music in a wider sense. Btw This accusation can’t be levelled against Matteo because he is out there playing gigs.

Yes, Christian, no doubt about it, the internet has corrupted young people today - and older people too for that matter, but not to the same degree because it wasn't a part of our formative years.

[pamosmusic]

Yes, Christian, no doubt about it, the internet has corrupted young people today - and older people too for that matter, but not to the same degree because it wasn't a part of our formative years.

Youve clearly never interacted with a 60 year old Facebook user.

[Mick-7]

Youve clearly never interacted with a 60 year old Facebook user.

You are quite right, I have never joined Facebook and similar sites and do not plan to, I could see that they are some of Satan's' favorite playgrounds for idle hands/minds.

I was a moderator of the old Alisdair Birch Yahoo jazz guitar group and refused to follow it when it went to Facebook, I came here instead (I'm sure there are members here who regret that decision).

[wolflen]

Disinformation, violent crime is way down.

Conservative media is telling you otherwise to scare you.

U.S. violent and property crime rates have plunged since 1990s, regardless of data source | Pew Research Center

This isn’t political, these are facts about reality.

Allan..Political and facts in the same sentence..really.

yes crime is down..unless..YOU are being mugged..robbed..stabbed or shot..then suddenly crime just went up 100%

[Christian Miller]

I couldn't tell if it was troll bait or a sensible suggestion, although it could be considered both.



Yes, Christian, no doubt about it, the internet has corrupted young people today - and older people too for that matter, but not to the same degree because it wasn't a part of our formative years.

I wouldn’t use those terms. It’s just a different world.

And there are very much players today who are highly distinctive. I just don’t like them haha (but I do respect them.)


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[Christian Miller]

Youve clearly never interacted with a 60 year old Facebook user.

Neither have you statistically, that site is mostly bots now. More machine than man, bitter and twisted .


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