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For anyone who is interested here is a link to a transcription of the "Just Friends" by Pat Martino
Originally Posted by kris
https://cdn.neffmusic.com/2022/JustF...tMartino-C.pdf
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01-11-2025 03:30 PM
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I think every guitarist I know has learnt this one at some point
Originally Posted by GuyBoden
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I have an unhealthy attachment to "Have You Met Miss Jones" so thought I'd try it for this thread. It's easy enough to make you nap a little and then the bridge bites you in the behind.
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I'm going to contribute a new one here. Still working on "These Foolish Things". Okay, so I played a couple of chords, just a few though.
From my Google Drive:
These Foolish Things 3_mixdown.wav - Google Drive
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Yummy..lets see..sweet sausage & peppers and mushrooms...
Originally Posted by ragman1
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This thread is in the 'Getting Started' subforum so this tune seemed appropriate. It's another example of the chord tone counterpoint I spoke of earlier, however I was playing my Tele so I just had to use open strings and.... Beware of Twang!

I Can't Get Started with You, take 1 - Box.com
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gv, I'd suggest you slow down, listen more intently, play less, leave more space - think "Miles Davis." And your timing needs work, you're out of of sync with your backing track, which can be annoying. But keep on keepin' on.
Originally Posted by guitarvegas
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Ok, but I think I have made big progress with this track today. It's coming a "long way" since last week even. But I will continue to work on this. Thanks.
Originally Posted by Mick-7
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I'll have to listen to your previous takes, but I'd rather hear you without a backing track.
Originally Posted by guitarvegas
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This is true. Even Jesse van Ruller, who is not a fan of transcribing guitar solos, has practiced this solo.I read about it somewhere.
Originally Posted by bediles
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Yes.
Originally Posted by Mick-7
Besides, this thread is about melody, not improvisation.
If you already play with a backing track, in my opinion, don't overdo it with "cosmic" reverb.
This blurs timing and rhythmic accuracy.
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Funny, that's exactly what I had tonight. Bought, not made. With roquito peppers :-)
Originally Posted by wolflen
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I'm not hearing the more experienced players here experimenting with their phrasing (with one or two exceptions), which I thought was one of the main points of this thread. I don't expect it from beginners whose first objective is to play the right notes but as I see it, the more advanced players have no excuse for playing a plain jane (and frankly boring) take on the melody - at least if you're spending any time on it, e.g., the 30 minutes that Mr. B suggested should be more than enough.
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What do you mean by that?
Originally Posted by Mick-7
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I’m treating the 30 minutes as time to get it truly correct. I have all the time in the world to improvise, that’s the fun bit and the part I think I can practice less of. noodling
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He wants us to improvise on the “just play the melody thread”
Originally Posted by pamosmusic
The real question is, Why is this thread so hard for people to understand?
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I would think it is obvious: phrasing is one of the main distinguishing features of a musician, not just what notes they play or sing but the way in which they play them. But I will upload an example of me gently torturing the melody of Misty.
Originally Posted by pamosmusic
Not at all. I can play a set of notes in many different ways: bends, slurs, trills, with varied dynamics - softer, louder, muted, etc. And that's not even counting rhythmic variation.
Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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Well yeah I know what phrasing a melody is but it’s hard to know what’s wrong when you’re not referencing anything in particular.
Originally Posted by Mick-7
It had a bit of a Teacher Looks Over Glasses and Says You Know Who You Are vibe.
I think i was phrasing the melody but who knows. Putting more spin on it and another person might say I was altering it beyond recognition.
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The reply I just added to Allan's remark should clarify what I meant.
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Again … I do know what phrasing a melody is.
Originally Posted by Mick-7
It just read as a little passive aggressive honestly.
“You're doing it wrong and SOME OF YOU should know better.”
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As I said, I'll upload an example of what I'm talking about. And I'll go back and listen to everyone's takes, didn't hear them all, my first impressions may have been off.
Originally Posted by pamosmusic
P.S. - I was thinking when I made the comment that you (Peter) and Mr. B are probably the exceptions to the rule, and you were, and there were others too. However, over-all I didn't hear much personal interpretation of the melodies, they were generally played rather straight (hard to tell about Allan's phrasing because he doesn't plug his guitar in). Phrasing is something I'm focusing on now so I may be myopic about it.Last edited by Mick-7; 01-12-2025 at 07:54 PM.
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Well there’s only like … seven people posting melodies on here.
Originally Posted by Mick-7
In general, making assumptions about where people are in their musical journey and judgements about what they should be doing while they’re there is going come off a little weird.
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Sounds great. I look forward to hearing it.
Originally Posted by Mick-7
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I understand, I wasn't suggesting that folks here need to work on their phrasing, but if they want to, melodies are a great vehicle for doing so. I think I'm just emphasizing something that Mr. B said in his first post - quoted below.
Originally Posted by pamosmusic
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont



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