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Hmm, so one solution to the problem of people dying in car accidents was to force the wearing of seatbelts. People complained, but it saved lives. The people who lobbied for it were eventually vindicated.
2020: Solutions were proffered by health experts to ameliorate, or mitigate the effects of the Covid pandemic, so we had forced wearing of masks, lockdowns, unprecedented economic shutdowns for 2-3 years, etc etc. People complained, however, the people who lobbied for it are yet to be vindicated. Or did I miss something?
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01-18-2024 11:41 AM
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People have been telling me to vote since I was 18 which means I refuse to vote. For me it's no different than being told to wear a mask. I am not a military man or a waiter or a sideman either so I do not take orders from others. I do what I want.
Originally Posted by Stringswinger
Did you go along with the stupid shit or did you push back? I refuse to condition myself for nonsense beyond usual music biz stuff, lol. I never wore a mask once and went all the places I wanted to go. Guess who said anything to me in all that time? One fearful geezer at the post office with his mask down below his nose tried to get the constable who was in line to force me to mask up. I was prepared for a fight. He wasn't, and backed down. I could see the confusion and hesitation in his eyes because he knew it was stupid and wrong. The businesses were more concerned that my money was green, typical America, haha.
Be ready to suffer, fight, or die for what you believe and the insults and intimidation cease to be a factor. This is why I don't take any of the insults directed at me here to heart. They are entitled to their opinions. What does it matter to me? It doesn't. And it doesn't bother me either. I grew up in an environment of insults and intimidation so there's "no place like home".
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If you want an eye opening conversation about "freedom" talk to someone who came to the U.S. from a country that wasn't "free."
I'll give you a spoiler: masks didn't feel like an violation of their freedom one bit.
My neighbor's daughter got mugged at the park a few weeks ago. When talking to him about it, he said "still safer than it was in Gaza."
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True, having to wear a mask is a minor inconvenience compared to.... not being allowed to work, or leave your home! Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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I noticed the so-called scientific consensus has changed on a number of key points over the course of the pandemic. Originally Posted by fep
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I care more about children being forced to wear masks. Which they were in many places. Much to their detriment. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Well noticed! If I didn’t know better from the internet that it was all a shady conspiracy by curiously omni-compentent government agencies, I’d say it’s almost as if scientific understanding of a hitherto unknown pathogen evolves over time, even as the pathogen itself mutates and evolves. Originally Posted by Kirk Garrett
but that’s sheeple talk!
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I reckon I’ve got a talking point that will do the impossible and unite Americans on both sides of the aisle. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
the high level of politicisation of personal choice in the matter of mask wearing in the US given the general indifference in this country to personal choice in the matter confirms to me that the US is not in fact naturally individualist and tends towards conformism and in-group out-group psychology compared to the UK.
;-)
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For Americans, it's important to be different, just like everyone else. Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Quite right, my mistake. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Either that, or the cover-up story evolves?... (eg. Fauci knowledge of possible lab leak etc) Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Some posters here seem to have trouble agreeing to disagree. But that should not surprise me considering that this is a place where if you bring up the subject of Gibson guitars, emotions start to run high and rational thought gets quickly discarded.
Over and out for me. Have at it guys. And have fun.
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Well politics is one thing, religion quite another. Originally Posted by Stringswinger
Some posters here seem to have trouble agreeing to disagree. But that should not surprise me considering that this is a place where if you bring up the subject of Gibson guitars, emotions start to run high and rational thought gets quickly discarded.
Over and out for me. Have at it guys. And have fun.
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The thoughts of someone who would've preferred a monolithic and united response to a disease that 99.7% of people will survive. Maybe if we had listened to you and those who think like you it would be a 99.8% survival rate. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Not just in the US, pretty much everywhere, certainly in Italy. Originally Posted by Christian Miller
My wife is Japanese, the first time I went to Japan (as far back as winter of 1990!) I saw all these Japanese wearing masks and it made me smile... "What's the matter with them!?" and my now wife/back then girlfriend said: "Either they have a cold and don't want to spread it or they simply don't want to catch one... in Japan we care about the community, in the West you are more individualistic!" she replied. Ok, I thought, "but are they not exagerating a little, here!? Come on!! Germs will strengthen your immune system, won't they?".
She (rather moderately, I have to say) carried on wearing a mask in Italy when she had a cold or didn't want to catch one. So, she once took a flight to Japan when she had a bad cold and she told me that the Italian woman sitting next to her kept thanking her for being so considerate (in Italy, before covid, we hardly knew masks existed, unless we had had surgery or something...).
Ok, fast forward to covid times: my wife is wearing a mask in a shop downtown and this woman (not the same one sitting next to her in the airplain, obviously) comes along and snatches the mask off my wife's face accusing her of being a "lobotomised slave" and a "friend of the élites"...
Nevermind
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Where do these people get the energy from? that’s what I want to know… Originally Posted by frabarmus
Not just in the US, pretty much everywhere, certainly in Italy.
My wife is Japanese, the first time I went to Japan (as far back as winter of 1990!) I saw all these Japanese wearing masks and it made me smile... "What's the matter with them!?" and my now wife/back then girlfriend said: "Either they have a cold and don't want to spread it or they simply don't want to catch one... in Japan we care about the community, in the West you are more individualistic!" she replied. Ok, I thought, "but are they not exagerating a little, here!? Come on!! Germs will strengthen your immune system, won't they?".
She (rather moderately, I have to say) carried on wearing a mask in Italy when she had a cold or didn't want to catch one. So, she once took a flight to Japan when she had a bad cold and she told me that the Italian woman sitting next to her kept thanking her for being so considerate (in Italy, before covid, we hardly knew masks existed, unless we had had surgery or something...).
Ok, fast forward to covid times: my wife is wearing a mask in a shop downtown and this woman (not the same one sitting next to her in the airplain, obviously) comes along and snatches the mask off my wife's face accusing her of being a "lobotomised slave" and a "friend of the élites"...
Nevermind
I’ve barely got enough to mind my own business let alone anyone else’s…
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I guess they're on a mission... Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Ah yes
“The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.”
(every pretentious edgy teen’s favourite poem, amirite?)
In this sense, and only this sense, I am clearly among the Best
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whats 0.003 multiplied by 8 billion? Originally Posted by DawgBone
what’s 0.001 multiplied by 8 billion?
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I said "maybe", baby. Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Everyone gangsta until we talk numbers. Originally Posted by DawgBone
0.1% not so much
8,000,000 seems like a lot to me. Idk.
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Or put another way...
Covid is currently the third leading cause of death in the U.S. behind Heart Disease and Cancer.
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Everyone has a university level education until reading comprehension is involved. Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Do you think if I asked Musk for 0.1% of his assets he’d agree?
Just a rounding error m8. You’d never miss it!
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If he said "maybe" do you think your bank account would be bigger? Originally Posted by Christian Miller
Jimmy Smith at Newport ('72) Kenny Burrell on guitar
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