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Anybody got a good chart? thanks!!!!
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02-20-2026 07:07 PM
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It’s a blues so, that’s the changes. The melody is pretty simple dominant 7 arpeggio stuff. Going through the changes.
Really, learn this by ear. First note is Bb.
I’ve already done all the hard work for you.
Also, this is a very cool head I was unaware of.
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Thanks Allan- it is indeed a very very cool head.
Originally Posted by AllanAllen
I already had what you said, that's the simple part. yes learning it by ear. I appreciate your support, but there is more to it. look deeper than the ostensible simplicity. it is indeed an arpeggiated Eb minor blues, but with a modified turnaround (altered dominant moving alt B7 or B7alt to Bb7alt). that's part of what makes it so cool. its not a typical minor blues move. I think I've got close to it by ear and from some charts I've seen that seem a little off. Maybe its is the cool horn harmonies that Trane arranged.
I'm going to integrate it into my band's set list for a Coltrane tribute (he turns 100 this year). that's why I'm looking for a chart, hoping someone did an accurate transcription that I can give to the band and we'll all be "on the same page". I haven't found one on line that seems quite right. So- if anyone has a good chart or real clarity on the turnaround, that would help. thanks again.
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I can dig that.
I’ll put some time into this over the weekend and we can compare notes.
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Just the chart in the Jazz LTD. fake book....
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thanks much. that's one book I don't have. very much appreciated! Originally Posted by Mick-7
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cool. Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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At least I was right it started on Bb
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yep! Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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And now we can all hear it as well :-)
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You can download it here -- Digital Fake Books Originally Posted by TSP
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And now you have the sounds, the chart, the changes, all that's left is the improvising...
I liked what Coltrane was doing on that vid, like the soundtrack from one of those old detective movies :-)
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I thought bar 2 was Bb7, but the bars aren’t even where I thought they were.
The chords on the chart are cromulent.
The #V to V move on a minor blues is pretty basic. BB King does it on Thrill Is Gone. You can’t go to a blues jam without knowing that. Of course Coltrane makes it very hip.
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yeah- I hadn’t thought of it quite that way. Was more thinking the standard minor jazz 2-5-1. The alteration on both the #V and V are what makes it so cool with the melody line also tracking the alteration. Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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The #V is a tritone of the usual chord. In G, the normal A7 - D7 - G7 progression becomes Eb7 - D7 - G7. There are lots of examples of this in blues tunes and the swap is often put in by the players anyway.
So you're OK with improvising Chronic Blues then?
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yes- very much. thanks. been there done that. I just needed a little more clarity on those two chords and the accompanying chromatic move in the melody as I want to make sure the my band has clarity and are literally on the same sheet of music. We are doing a Coltrane tribute and I want to get it right. That why I asked if anyone has an accurate chart. Other charts I've seen on line didn't look right to me. the one posted above on this thread looks right (thank you!). Originally Posted by ragman1
the first note in the second phrase is written as an F even thought the chord is Eb-. common Coltrane move to use the 9th, but then the next phrase over Eb starts on Eb. Curious, and I have also seen that written starting that phrase on Eb.
So do you think that the horns are playing an EB-9 triad there? My transcribing skills aren't honed enough to get that very hip horn harmony line right.
we are trying to approximate that feel with different instrumentation. one saxophone and guitar. Piano could play the third line in the triad.
thanks all.
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I think riff modulates to the V instead of it starting on the 9th of Eb-7. Just a different way to analyze it. Originally Posted by TSP
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I'm not sure what you mean by the second phrase. The only F I can see as a first note is the final bar the second time around. Originally Posted by TSP
That's on the chart but in the recording they only do it once round. At the 12th bar the last, final note before the solo is Eb, no question (I slowed it down). But I can also hear a strange little blip there, like they didn't play it right and landed up on the Eb. Or it was all quite deliberate, of course.
I think you and the sax should just agree to play the same thing! To be honest, I think the F sounds a bit strange so I'm glad it's an Eb :-)
They're playing Eb Db Bb Ab Gb Eb which is the Ebm pentatonic.the horns are playing an Eb-9 triad
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The F in the middle of the second bar shown on the chart, it’s where the second musical phrase starts (phrases do not have to start at bar lines!). Originally Posted by ragman1
It is the note they play on the recording at that point.
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This is the second bar on the chart. I see no F (there's a joke there somewhere).
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There's an F in the middle of this bar but it's not the second bar on the chart.
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This is the only bar that has F as the first note (per the OP's description) and it's played as an Eb. I slowed it down and played over it.
There are only 3 F notes in the whole chart and that's all of them (there's a top F in the first bar after the pick-up but I'm ignoring that one).
But this stuff confuses me anyway so I'm probably completely bananas :-)
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OK, last go.
There's a pick-up bar on the chart before the double repeat lines. If the OP is taking that as 'the first bar' of the tune, he shouldn't. The first bar is the one after the double lines where the tune actually begins:
There is an F there which I ignored. But let's say that was the one he's talking about. Yes, it's an F and it's played as an F. It's quite obviously an F (it goes F - Eb). It's the highest note in the whole piece.
If that's the one he says he can't make out I'm fairly amazed, to be honest, it's clear as a bell. If he plays it with the recording on his geetar it really couldn't be anything else.
I expect that'll upset him.
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Oh, last thought. I hadn't listened to the whole vid and, of course, they reprise the tune at the end. Now, there the last bar on the chart has the long F in it played as the 9 over Ebm, repeated and faded.
That IS an F, just like the chart.
Phew, that really is it now. I sincerely wish him all the best with his band.
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It is the note you circled in red.
No-one said it was the first note of a bar, as I pointed out.
I think you need to go to Specsavers!
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