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    Quote Originally Posted by jameslovestal
    Interesting. I only count the bars for each unique section. E.g. if a song is AABA, and each section is 8 bars, I say the progression is 16 bars, not 32.
    I don’t think that’s a good way to think of things.

    The A sections should/could/may have different endings(turnarounds), the 2nd one should lead into the B while the 1st leads into itself and the 3rd resolves the form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    I don’t think that’s a good way to think of things.

    The A sections should/could/may have different endings(turnarounds), the 2nd one should lead into the B while the 1st leads into itself and the 3rd resolves the form.
    If a section is, for example, A+ (e.g. the last two bars have different chords for a turnaround), I consider that a different progression, and thus I would count those bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameslovestal
    If a section is, for example, A+ (e.g. the last two bars have different chords for a turnaround), I consider that a different progression, and thus I would count those bars.
    If I choose to play a turnaround on the first A but not the second the progression doesn’t lose bars. You’ve got this over complicated.

  6. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    If I choose to play a turnaround on the first A but not the second the progression doesn’t lose bars. You’ve got this over complicated.
    I meant that I don't count the entire section again (e.g. A and than A+, which is why said 32 bars, 8 per section * 4).

    Also, I was referring to playing a song as an instrumental where I might not even play the song as the form used when there are vocals.

    But I do that so I don't scare off my jam buddies that don't practice songs in their full form, as much as I do. If I call a song where they need to know the chords for a 32 bar song, they just call a 12 bars, one section song! (I'm happy if they can play 1 "A" section!).

  7. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    If I choose to play a turnaround on the first A but not the second the progression doesn’t lose bars. You’ve got this over complicated.
    Yeah and the operative thing is if you go to a jam session and tell people you’re playing Another You and it’s 24 bars, they’ll look at you like you have three heads and you’ll have to have this entire thread play out on the bandstand

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    Roy Haynes absolutely kills on this. As do they all.

    There's also a live bootleg of Kenny Kirkland and Tain playing this, but idk if y'all are ready for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreckerFan


    Roy Haynes absolutely kills on this. As do they all.

    There's also a live bootleg of Kenny Kirkland and Tain playing this, but idk if y'all are ready for that.
    Hit us with it.

  10. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic
    Hit us with it.


    First track on this. Grab hold of something.

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  12. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic
    Yeah and the operative thing is if you go to a jam session and tell people you’re playing Another You and it’s 24 bars, they’ll look at you like you have three heads and you’ll have to have this entire thread play out on the bandstand
    One wouldn't tell the others a song IS 24 bars, but that they are going to play it as 24 bars. In my experience it isn't uncommon to change the form of a song when done as an instrumental. E.g. a song has multiple sections (like Cheek to Cheek): each soloist only solos over A and B. C is skipped expect for when playing the melody.

    PS: But I do see the points being made. If I ever play with professionals I'll follow what is being said to a T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameslovestal
    One wouldn't tell the others a song IS 24 bars, but that they are going to play it as 24 bars. In my experience it isn't uncommon to change the form of a song when done as an instrumental. E.g. a song has multiple sections (like Cheek to Cheek): each soloist only solos over A and B. C is skipped expect for when playing the melody.
    Due respect but that’s exactly what one would say.

    ”Love Walked In, Eb”

    “Love Walked In?”

    Hums melody “It’s a 32 bar ABAC.” Counts in song.

    If I make modifications from the standard form then I’d use that other kind of language.

    32 bar ABAC “but we tag the last four every time” or 32 bar ABAC but we’ll pedal Bb on the As

    etc etc etc

    PS: But I do see the points being made. If I ever play with professionals I'll follow what is being said to a T.
    Well yeah okay.

  14. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameslovestal
    Interesting. I only count the bars for each unique section. E.g. if a song is AABA, and each section is 8 bars, I say the progression is 16 bars, not 32.
    This isn’t how it works


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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Miller
    This isn’t how it works


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    Yea, I clearly was mistaken.