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Sometimes you just have to roll up on some Giant Steps and work the form and intervals of this little masterpiece. Leave it to Trane to change the world in just 16 bars
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01-13-2025 06:17 PM
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Masterful
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Thanks! I’ve been working on this tune for over 40 years, slow learner that I am
Originally Posted by tpandela
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refreshing!
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Mark, nobody sounds like you.
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I first encountered this tune in 1977- I remember almost quitting; there and then. If I’m lucky I will have another 25 years or so to keep on after this.
Originally Posted by guitarvegas
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I am very curious how this brilliant child will play GS in 40 years....
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You'll only have to wait 30, he was 11 when that video was shot....10 yrs ago.
Originally Posted by kris
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Child prodigies present such an interesting phenomenon. As a late bloomer myself, I’ve always been awestruck and mystified by such talent. What should be expected of their development arc? Do they fizzle out or flatline or do they evolve the way “normal” people do? Beats me- I suppose anything can happen.
Originally Posted by kris
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My good friend and excellent pianist recorded one version by whistling.
This seems like a very big challenge to me.
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He’s good but that backing track is downright criminal. Since we’re going off on tangents, check out Brad Terry whistling a free piece. Best damn whistler ever when he’s not playing clarinet.
Originally Posted by kris
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He whistles brilliantly.It's a pity he didn't whistle the improvisations in GS.
Originally Posted by Mark Kleinhaut
GS-requires different whistling skills.
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I know. Brad knows thousands of tunes by ear, but not the trane stuff. By the way, I was sneakily seeing if you’d notice or recognize Joachim Mencel at the piano on that one.
Originally Posted by kris
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Best solo-guitar version I've heard, Mark! Really, you are up there with the greats. No question.
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Of course, I know Joachim Mencel - a Polish pianist from Krakow.
Originally Posted by Mark Kleinhaut
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Hi Rob, that’s the nicest thing to say. I really appreciate the supportive and open mindedness you’ve always shown in all conversations here in the forum. Thanks very much!
Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
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Thanks, Mark.
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Stunning.
Originally Posted by Mark Kleinhaut
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Thanks very much!!
Originally Posted by northernbreed
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Yeah, but it takes true mastery to bring musicality in the moment to that exercise.
Originally Posted by Mark Kleinhaut
Thank you for lighting up that path, Mark!
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I have never been able to get past memorizing Giant Steps. I just don't have it integrated -- I have to brute-force it. Every time, every chorus, I'm thinking and that sucks. "B! Eb! G! Ayee!"
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Hi Sam, I’ve been there done that too (brute force) to get this and some other tunes into my head. I still sometimes think of giant steps in two parts- the first 8 as the tension and the second as the release (it the hard half and the easy half).
Originally Posted by Sam Sherry
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I think that the biggest difficulty is the appropriate tempo of the GS - rather fast.
I am also a supporter of playing GS in time...I mean playing with a standard rhythm section.
I practice GS at home/with backing tracks/ but I have never had the courage to play it in front of an audience.
I hope there will come a day when I will be ready.
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Sorry to post one of my videos but I did do a vid on this subject, which might be helpful.
Originally Posted by Sam Sherry
Also my latest one is on giant steps.
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One of the biggest unasked and unanswered questions to improvisors is: Why bother?
There is a preponderance of players who treat this tune as an obstacle course, and the answer sounds like "Because it's there".
More rarely does it sound like "Because there's something locked in there that I want to hear."
You've found it. Thanks!
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Because jazz answers most of these questions. I need it on a mug.
Originally Posted by Jimmy blue note
“Why play Satellite in 13/8?”
“Because jazz!”
But in seriousness a very good jazz guitarist friend of mine described an ‘e-sports attitude to jazz.’
As long as I’ve been playing, there’s always been a strain of the jock mentality among some musicians, but I wonder if this isn’t becoming more prevalent. The grumpy old dude in me feels video games have rewritten a lot of people’s perceptions of things like art to become very limited.
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