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I'm playing it on the guitar and seeing it fall under the chord shapes I mentioned. Not analyzing the notes, I'm not educated enough for that.
Originally Posted by Mick-7
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08-02-2024 01:01 PM
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I take it you're not chord/scale oriented but rather a chord tone oriented player? That's actually better, I began with the chord<>scale strategy, which is harder... in fact musically, it seems I've done just about everything the hard way.
Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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Yeah, I tend to bring everything back to the CAGED shapes.
Originally Posted by Mick-7
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Those books are full of errors. What do your ears say?
Originally Posted by Mick-7
And what my ears say is now I’ve listened to Guy’s slow down version again and what sounded like an F# earlier sounds like an F natural now :-)
As you were…
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F natural, I had checked to see if the lead sheets were accurate. As you said, they are often inaccurate.
Originally Posted by Christian Miller
The triplet is even harder to play on open strings, at a faster tempo anyway - about ready to abandon the idea.
Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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There's no open strings in jazz, if you keep it up the Jazz Police will come get you.
Originally Posted by Mick-7
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You said second phrase, not second bar.
Originally Posted by AllanAllen
Mick was referring to that Ab minor but that’s the second bar, and falls on the end of the first phrase. It’s F natural and a rest on that chord.
The second phrase fits more over bars 3-4 w a little pickup in bar 2. So Eb7 fits clean over what is usually Eb Db C7, or Gm7b5 C7… and Eb7 is a pretty tried and true bebop sub over those changes (basically a minor ii-V to the ii chord in the home key).
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Not worried, if they couldn't indict Ralph Towner, I figure I'm safe.
Originally Posted by AllanAllen
Then again, if we modify your statement from "in jazz" to "in bebop," you could be right.
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Let me respond to that with a x x 6 3 0 x
Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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dig it, open strings!
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And where is K.B. now? In jazz prison.
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Using the original Parker version, I've tried to slow down, but get as clear a recording as possible.
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I'm not sure if the note in bar five is the note G or F.
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The last note? It's a G dotted quarter note, but slightly flat, due to either the slow downer app or because Miles (the human slow-downer) intonation is off. The G is followed by an F (8th note).
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Originally Posted by Mick-7
Thanks.
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After careful listening of a slowed down Dewey Square, I think the third phrase is easy, it's this:
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Thought I may as well post a take even if it wasn't perfect. I like this song, it's a good not too hard Parker jam that isn't overplayed.
Last edited by Bobby Timmons; 08-20-2024 at 09:28 PM.
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Would ya' all like to revive this study group? I mean, it's always good to know and/or remember your bebop tunes!
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Pick a tune and let her rip
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I've been working on Moose the Mooche and it's a beast.
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I'd say some sweep picking will be required - to get it up to speed anyway.
Originally Posted by charlieparker
Lots of good candidates for this: Moose the Mooche, Bloomdido, etc. Do I need to take a survey?
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I say Just pick one and assign the bars for the week.
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I realize I’m brand new here but I vote for Perhaps. Not terribly difficult - lies well under the fingers. I’m playing the first note E with 4th finger, g string. Then again, I’m playing from the Eb Omnibook - the only one I own.
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That tune is rather obscure, and not a good source of bebop vocabulary. It would be best to first learn well known bop tunes such as Au Privave, Bloomdido, Confirmation, Blues for Alice, Billie's Bounce, Moose the Mooche, etc.
Originally Posted by befiddled
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Obscure? That I believe - none of the musician’s I know, know anything about any of these tunes. Does seem near perfect bebop to me - both head and three chorus solo. Carry on.



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