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If you were ever moved by "the worlds greatest bass player," this is a must see.
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06-11-2016 11:47 AM
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any link to that ?
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Wow, I have been waiting for that doc for a long time. I have quite a backlist of music documentaries to see--Chet Baker, many others, not to mention the biopics...
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It's on Netflix.
Originally Posted by pingu
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It can also be rented or purchased from Amazon Video (as a download).
Last edited by jbernstein91; 06-12-2016 at 09:23 AM.
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I watched it a few days ago. I liked it, but I would have rather heard more from jazz bassists rather than Flea and some of the others in the flick. Also, there was not that much from other musicians in general that he played with through out his career. A few that gave repeated snippets but not that many individuals compared to the ones that he played with.
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I read Jaco's bio, so there wasn't much that wasn't covered there, but I got a kick out of seeing some of Jaco's hangouts in NYC, especially 55 Grand St., the club Mike Stern owned and lived above back in the 80s.
It felt more like a huge living room when I saw Stern play there.
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I didn't realize that Stern owned it. I had great times going there in the 80's.
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How did he own it? I thought they were all broke at the time.
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Stern came from huge WASP money. His mom was a Sedgewick. Here's a wiki history of the Sedgewicks: Originally Posted by Encinitastubes
edgwick's family was long established in Massachusetts history. Her seventh-great grandfather, English-born Robert Sedgwick,[5] was the first Major General of the Massachusetts Bay Colony settling in Charlestown, Massachusetts in 1635.[6] Sedgwick's family later originated from Stockbridge, Massachusetts where her great-great-great grandfather Judge Theodore Sedgwick had settled after the American Revolution. Theodore married Pamela Dwight of the New England Dwight family[7] who was the daughter of Abigail (née Williams) Dwight. Ephraim Williams, the founder of Williams College, was Sedgwick's fifth-great grandfather.[8] Judge Theodore Sedgwick was the first to plead and win a case for the freedom of a black woman, Elizabeth Freeman, under the Massachusetts Bill of Rights that declared all men to be born free and equal.[9] Her great-great-great paternal grandfather, William Ellery, was a signatory of the United States Declaration of Independence.[9] Sedgwick's mother Alice was the daughter of Henry Wheeler de Forest, the President and Chairman of the Board of the Southern Pacific Railroad and a direct descendant of Jessé de Forest whose Dutch West India Company helped to settle New Amsterdam.[10] Jessé de Forest was also Edie's seventh-great grandfather.[11] Her paternal grandfather was the historian and acclaimed author Henry Dwight Sedgwick III; her great grandmother, Susanna Shaw, was the sister of Robert Gould Shaw, the American Civil War Colonel; and her great-great grandfather, Robert Bowne Minturn, was a part owner of the Flying Cloud clipper ship and is credited with creating and promoting Central Park in New York City.[12] She was the first cousin, once removed, of actress Kyra Sedgwick. Kyra is the daughter of Henry Dwight Sedgwick V (Edie's first cousin), the son of Robert Minturn Sedgwick, who was the older brother of Francis Minturn Sedgwick.
The Stern side of the family was even wealthier; some rich investment banker.
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Stern came from huge WASP money. He was a Sedgewick. Here's a wiki history of the Sedgewicks: Originally Posted by Encinitastubes
edgwick's family was long established in Massachusetts history. Her seventh-great grandfather, English-born Robert Sedgwick,[5] was the first Major General of the Massachusetts Bay Colony settling in Charlestown, Massachusetts in 1635.[6] Sedgwick's family later originated from Stockbridge, Massachusetts where her great-great-great grandfather Judge Theodore Sedgwick had settled after the American Revolution. Theodore married Pamela Dwight of the New England Dwight family[7] who was the daughter of Abigail (née Williams) Dwight. Ephraim Williams, the founder of Williams College, was Sedgwick's fifth-great grandfather.[8] Judge Theodore Sedgwick was the first to plead and win a case for the freedom of a black woman, Elizabeth Freeman, under the Massachusetts Bill of Rights that declared all men to be born free and equal.[9] Her great-great-great paternal grandfather, William Ellery, was a signatory of the United States Declaration of Independence.[9] Sedgwick's mother Alice was the daughter of Henry Wheeler de Forest, the President and Chairman of the Board of the Southern Pacific Railroad and a direct descendant of Jessé de Forest whose Dutch West India Company helped to settle New Amsterdam.[10] Jessé de Forest was also Edie's seventh-great grandfather.[11] Her paternal grandfather was the historian and acclaimed author Henry Dwight Sedgwick III; her great grandmother, Susanna Shaw, was the sister of Robert Gould Shaw, the American Civil War Colonel; and her great-great grandfather, Robert Bowne Minturn, was a part owner of the Flying Cloud clipper ship and is credited with creating and promoting Central Park in New York City.[12] She was the first cousin, once removed, of actress Kyra Sedgwick. Kyra is the daughter of Henry Dwight Sedgwick V (Edie's first cousin), the son of Robert Minturn Sedgwick, who was the older brother of Francis Minturn Sedgwick.
The Stern side of the family was even wealthier; some rich investment banker.
His given name at birth was
Michael Sedgewick
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The movie was made by Robert Trujillo, the bass player from Metallica, he is a huge Jaco fan. So it makes sense that some of the rocknroll guys are in it. Plus jazz bassists in traditional sense of the word wouldnt have much to say about Jaco anyway, he was electric bass innovator, not upright, and his music was eclectic enough to inspire non jazz players. He had something that we cant stop to discuss here- why jazz isnt popular anymore. Well, he made it very popular at the time, I dont think anyone had a hard time enjoying his playing, jazz fans or not. Originally Posted by lammie200
Still, the movie was spoiled for me by Bill Milkowski book years earlier, that was a fascinating read!
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can't get Jaco on uk Netfix
shame
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I like plenty of other genres, but personally I can't stand Metallica. Probably the reason why I felt that most of the rock bassist interviews were a bit on the shallow side. Just my opinion. Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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I found the spot on the Cuban percussionist interesting. I could really hear the influence.
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And that's fine! Even though, Trujillo joined them fairly recent... What is funny to me in all those years no jazz star took the task of making such documentary, it has got to be a Heavy Metal dude of all people! He campaigned a lot to raise money on social media, and I'm sure spent tons out of his pocket. Makes you wonder, who really appreciate the Jaco legacy! Originally Posted by lammie200
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I don't think he did. He lived in the same building above it though. Does the documentary say that he did? Maybe someone is confusing this with Seventh Avenue South (which the Brecker Brothers owned)? Originally Posted by lammie200
John
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I could be wrong about that. This was back in his heroin days, when he had long, greasy hair that looked like it hadn't been washed in a month. He was traipsing around the place like he owned it. He'd play a couple of tunes with the trio when he felt like it, then go off and hang out with some friends. Originally Posted by John A.
Then, after a long 'break', Steve Slagle started playing with the trio, and tore the place apart!
In any event, when his parents kick the bucket MS is going to inherit a fortune.
I was surprised to find out that 55 Grand St. was the bar where Gary McFarland made the fatal error of discovering a bag of drugs that someone left behind. He decided to try them out, and dropped dead right there from an OD.
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good documentary. Zawinul comes off as a dick in it, I wonder how accurate that is.
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Different venue, wasn't it? I thought McFarland died at the 55 Bar @ 55 Christopher, Greenwich Village. All a bit confusing as Stern lived above 55 Grand St, Soho but played regularly at 55 Bar. Also, according to most sources, it was liquid methadone slipped into McFarland's drink. I'm not sure if there's any new information in this recent documentary on his life: Originally Posted by sgcim
About Gary McFarland | This is Gary McFarlandLast edited by PMB; 06-14-2016 at 08:05 PM.
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Interesting question. When Metheny toured here in Australia a year or so ago, I heard him interviewed on radio and he was asked about Jaco. I can't precisely recall his words, but he seemed very uncomplimentary about Zawinul, with regard to JZ's influence on Jaco over narcotics and dangerous behaviour. Originally Posted by pkirk
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zawinul (rip)..doesn't come off too well in the original weather report bassist (and founder) miroslav vitous telling either...
vitous was/is master musician...not funk guy..but great ..upright arco, compositional..next wr bassist great alphonso johnson was fretless and funky as all get go...by the time jaco entered, i was done
funny that flea was also major player in chet baker bio
interseting to know stern was related to warhols edie..good trivia
cheers
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The methadone came from a novelist and ex-junkie named Mason Hoffenberg, who came into Club 55 with a bag containing clean underwear, and two bottles of liquid methadone. Originally Posted by PMB
He left the bag behind, and GM and two friends 'explored' the contents of the bag, and decided to pour the liquid methadone into their drinks.
McFarland died in the club, and the writer ? Burnett died a few days later after being in a coma.
The third man, Gene Gammage, a drummer, barely survived, but refused to talk about it.
Hoffenberg admitted all of this in an interview in Playboy, 1986, and felt responsible for Mcfarland and Burnett' s deaths.
Stern played at 55 Grand Street when I saw him back in the 80s (which was the club featured in the Jaco film bio).
He played regularly at 55 Bar (another club) later on.
Whether GM died in Bar 55 or Club 55 is not made clear, but it probably wasn't 55 Grand.
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Stern also was first a regular at 55 Grand ( in Soho), IIRC ca. 83 (after Miles), which was a hangout for the fusion guys. I went there a couple of times, but never actually caught Stern there. I vaguely recall something about Stern having something to do with booking there and running a jam, but I'm not sure about that. I think it was closed by 84. Originally Posted by PMB
He started playing at 55 Christopher (about 15 blocks north) a few years later. Until he started playing there, it wasn't a music club. It was just a bar, a fairly creepy dive, truth be told.
John
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I think PMB was right; Gary McFarland died at 55 Christopher. Originally Posted by John A.
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