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Mark and ecj: thanks for clearing that up.+ The video Morten posted explains it quite well. Phew!! I was worried that I was severely lacking in physical abilities!!
The old saying . . "believe none of what you hear . . and only half of what you see."
I guess that's true in this case.
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07-09-2014 02:36 PM
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That tutorial is very cool. I would never have thought it was so easy to produce such a good fake.
This John Phil Wayne I thought was along the lines of Stanley Jordan but I think Richb is right - it's just a fake. He can show you stuff he does on slow speed but looking closely at this vid in the OP, it doesn't really look right to me. Even if it is real, frankly I think it sounds better to have a guy comping, another guy playing a solo and another guy playing the bass. I never really loved the sound of the stuff Stanley Jordan put out either for the same reason - impossible to play but doesn't sound as good as two competent dudes playing the same tune. Why would I not want the better sound rather than the greater technical prowess?
Another reason to think this is a fake is some of the stuff he puts on his website - he's apparently won dozens of grammys and won numerous awards - he's even played with Count Basie among other very notable personalities. Odd that I've never heard of him before. If he's not being honest on his site, then I question whether we should believe he is honestly presenting himself here.
Finally, I also agree with Henry - other than flying around the neck, what exactly are we listening to?
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Really? I watch and listen to a lot of the world's best classical players so watching the hands is not so much of a revelation anymore. Jazz wise I'm likewise attracted to great single line playing from Benson, McLaughlin, Smith etc as well as less virtuosic players of course.
Originally Posted by Patrick2
but forget all of that. I was reacting to what I heard, not saw. It's just my opinion but I find his melody playing to be quite sloppy. It sounded to me like he was playing past his speed, or at least the speed with which he can play cleanly, evenly, fully.
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This would actually make a lot of sense, because I really can't see his hands producing the lines I'm hearing on that video. I can't figure out how he's fingering most of it. Originally Posted by ColinO
Even if he is actually doing it all, it sounds pretty messy, as many other posters have stated.
From his videos he seems a little...off.
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Interesting. It was even the speed that he was playing that I found fast. I just couldn't make any sense out of it. His fingers weren't in synch with his fingers.
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Even if this wasn't a fake, I think as jazz musicians accustomed to playing with soul and feeling, this is just an anathema !!....L..
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What's going on there? Why is the bass so low? Why is there a phase or chorus on the top strings?
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mr.beaumont Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Video Masterclass , .......is it me?
he looks like a doppelganger for Boris Johnson the London Mayor , perhaps he's moonlighting.
Silverfoxx
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On his website he says he tunes the 6 and 5th strings an octave down. He also claims he won a dozen Grammy awards, so take that for what it's worth.
John Phil Wayne, Jazz-Solo-Guitar-Player
Seems like a street musician who got discovered. I think he may be a little mentally ill, but I dig his weird performance techniques.
There's something to be said for variety.
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Found this in the 'misc' section on his website: Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
INVENTION…
Created the first guitar synthesizer in the early 70’s but forgot to patent the Instrument!!!. This deception decided him to use his Guitar as in the early 60’s without any synthesizer or gadget and the result is just fantastic.
In 1992 he has been the generator of the Carlsbro GLX 120 turned into the GLX 150 JP Wayne Model in 1997. This Model features 5 output channels, which link to another GLX 150 gives 10 outputs out of which 6 being used for the Guitar offering one output per String, the 4 others being used in mono or stereo polyphonic sound. But this Model has been used only once for a show, since he considered that it was not necessary to have one channel per String for his performances.
2007- Generator of the Ultra Lightweight Low Bass Subwoofer (less 29 dB)
INSTRUMENTS USED FOR SOLO…
Backline :
Gibson Guitar ES175D (1957 Model), Guild - DeArmond Guitar, US Yamaha Mixing Console with two Yamaha 12”cabinets, UK Carlsbro Mixing Console with an 18” US Yamaha Sub-Woofer
So, that bass that I thought was midi was the subwoofer, lolLast edited by Dave70; 07-09-2014 at 07:11 PM.
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OMG! He invented the first guitar synth and forgot to patent it!!! Of course!!! Duh!! That makes total sense now. He possibly could be the greatest forgotten musical genius of our times.
I'm sorry. It could be true. Just struck be as really funny.
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To justify such virulent criticism, for anyone who is so aggressive in their criticisms would be good we give away a video of himself, the title could be "thats the way you do it"
I am assuming that everyone does the best they can, and the music It is primarily expression, unless someone confused the music with a sport
All this without forgetting of course the four magic words: IMHO
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l Originally Posted by Stbatz
Lets get things in perspective, If someone posts a video entitled "Video Masterclass" it is expected
that the performance will be articulate and at least competent. There are some great posts here
from non professional players, no one expects a Wes Montgomery or Howard Roberts style post , a
simple tune played well is appreciated. If one makes great claims its called " blowing you own trumpet"
IMHO the proof is in the pudding.
regards
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It's seems like he's "lip syncing" in the first vid....especially @ around 1:33...although other parts he looks right on.
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Agreed, in fact I'm pretty sure he's "finger synching" (to coin a phrase) to a tune called "Fast Blues" which is on one of his CDs available on Amazon. You can listen to sound clips in the download music section if you want to check it out. I also thought I heard some acoustic spillage from his Es-175 which wasn't in sync with the recording. My impression when listening to the audio clips of his ( *non MIDI based ) sound clips on Amazon, was that I wasn't hearing anything below standard guitar tuning, ie. no detuned 5th or 6th string. Originally Posted by djangoles
I won't comment on his claims on his biographical/career details, or on his credentials to justify the term "masterclass", or the authenticity of the concert performance clips.
I would like to add, however, that I see nothing in the 3 "masterclass" youtube vids where he plays the DeArmond, to suggest that what you're hearing isn't coming directly from his guitar, apart from reverb or chorus of some sort. And I feel that's still a pretty remarkable achievement.
All the Best.
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from his website
"Yet he remains Unsurpassed as The Most Amazing Jazz Solo Guitarist Of Our Time and is being called 'THOUSAND HANDS'."
amazing for sure, but it seems like "man with two extra invisible hands" would work better, since this video, unlike his masterclass video the bass line seems to play itself.
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Yeah, I like it too. I haven't heard the full CD version properly so I couldn't say whether it's a "one take" or not. But I do think the playing on the "masterclass" vids with the DeArmond are fascinating. Highly unorthodox, yes, inimitable, yes, but I think Mr JP Wayne has a unique sense of harmony, and he's probably playing music from a much more instinctive source than 99.9% of the rest of us guitar players out there.
A Jazz player with his own voice.
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