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I saw a recent thread which got to slighting a guy who I liked when I was a teen - Rik Emmett. Rik played and sang for a rock band called Triumph but always put a couple of classical or "jazz" type tunes on his albums. I always thought that was pretty cool and exposed some guys to music that they would otherwise never listen to. Anyway, I thought I would post him playing some jazz (which I think is pretty damn good) and wonder if you guys are aware of other rock guys who have played jazz.
P.S. I actually heard Peter Frampton playing Gypsy Jazz on the radio the other day but can't find it on Youtube so if you have that I would be happy to hear it.
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03-01-2013 04:53 PM
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Andy Summers of The Police has described himself as a jazz guy who plays rock. He even released an album of Monk tunes: Green Chimneys. I wish I could like it. I think Summers' strength is in comping and texture; I find his soloing on Chimneys rather noodley.
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I see what you mean. The guy can obviously play, but he doesn't really seem to have an idea where he's going. Thanks for posting that.
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It must be hard to play in a rock band so much for so long and then train oneself to lose those rock inclinations.
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Stern? Or was he a jazz guy who played rock? BS&T.
Frankly, I would speculate most of us here started with rock, then graduated.
Opinions?
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Playing one kind of music is always different than playing other types of music. But what does that entail for the instrument?
When I started taking guitar lessons, I was told the following: playing the piano is playing the piano, no matter what kind of music one is playing. Playing the guitar, however, often depends on what type of music one is trying to play--often, playing jazz will mean different technical approaches to the instrument (e.g, jazz vs. classical, vs. flamenco etc).
How true, how true. By way of a comparison, I was watching a lesson by Hal Galper on youtube. He reprimanded his student for forgetting that maxim that playing the piano is playing the piano, lamenting all the technical aspects to the instrument they may have learned by playing classical music have ben forgotten by jazz piano students. Playing the piano is playing the piano!
If only this was true for the guitar..
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Originally Posted by JakeAcci
You know it just sort of happened for me and now there seems to be no going back.
Any time I play with rock guys they say that I play too jazzy. Not necessarily the notes but the feel. When you get a triplet feeling going in your head, it's hard to play straight.....for me anyway.
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I hear ya I've had to get rock out of my system. I don't listen to rock any more unless a friend or coworker is playing it. When I do listen to it most the old stuff I grew up on I don't like it anymore except the Funk, R&B, or Blues rooted stuff. I still listen to some current Rap/Hip Hop and R&B music. Originally Posted by JakeAcci
Last edited by docbop; 03-02-2013 at 07:39 PM.
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Jeff Beck? Pete Townsend? Jonathan Kreisberg? Wayne Krantz? Wolfgang Muthspiel? Kurt Rosenwinkel (who played with Marcy Playground.)
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As soon as I saw the thread title I thought of ALEX SKOLNICK. Came up in the '80 in the metal band Testament. Then studied jazz at the New School in the late '90s and has since led his own trio. Check him out.
I've also seen RICHARD THOMPSON play some fine gypsy jazz at a 'night of guitar players' he hosted a couple of years ago.
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Randy Bachman.
Brian Setzer
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He's playing some nice stuff, but I can't stand his voice.
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John McLaughlin?
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Page Hamilton of Helmet playing with John Stowell
Helmet: Beautiful Love
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J Geils
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Pete Townsend???????? Originally Posted by Jimmy blue note
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Robben Ford, Allen Hinds both come to mind for jazz sensibilities, phrasing and chops. But here's something really fun:
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I believe all the guys in The Police were jazzers, but smart enough to know better money was to be had in pop.
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After working at a music school and attending two I find it knowing amusing how many who did go to music school to get work never mention it especially if they are auditioning for a Rock gig. And same goes for Jazz player never mention Jazz while going through the audition process. After they get the gigs and feel their safe then they start to open up about their backgrounds. Rock players have so many ridiculous myths about what it takes to play Rock and the if you know anything you can't play with rock soul. When I was at GIT being in Hollywood lots of band auditions going on, first thing students tell each other is don't mention GIT if talking to people about Rock auditions. So I imagine a lot of Rock players with secret Jazz background out there.
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I've seen the famous metal guitarist Bireli Lagrene play some pretty decent gypsy jazz.
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Tony Iommi used to play Jazz before inventing metal, he used to throw the odd Jazz solo into some gigs in the 70s
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What about country guys who play jazz? Brent Mason
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I second Jeff Beck as a guitarist's guitarist who can play in any genre. On his recent album dedicated to Les Paul he plays an ES-175. Brian Setzer plays on the record as well.
Steve Morse is another guy who can play it all.
I'm sure a lot of rockers who have played guitar for 35 years have ventured into jazz territory along the way. Except maybe Keith Richards...
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Actually, I rather liked that. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
Steve Miller, by the way.Last edited by mangotango; 08-17-2013 at 04:22 PM.
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Rik Emmet is amazing, in Triumph he played complicated guitar stuff while singing as high as Geddy Lee.
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