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    Mike Stern,Ed Bickert,Ulf Wakenius,Mick Goodrick,Bil Frisel, Wayne Krantz, Scot Henderson...
    do you know more names?
    why they use this kind of guitars ?

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    Clint Strong used his LP Custom for a long time.

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    Chris Crocco, John Moulder ...

    "Why" do they use them? Well, why not? The consensus, typically, on jazz guitar forums like this, is that there is no "one" jazz guitar or jazz guitar sound, so solid, semi-hollow, and hollow can all be used to play jazz. There's "tradition," but isn't part of jazz about "pushing" tradition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris
    why they use this kind of guitars ?
    1. They sound good when set up the right way
    2. No feedback problems
    3. Much more rugged and roadworthy
    4. Often more comfortable to hold
    5. Takes op less space (may with luck be taken as hand luggage on air planes)
    6. Often cheaper than hollowbodies
    7. Did I mention, they sound good when set up appropiately?
    Here's my Warmoth "jazzcaster":

    http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/..._NDC8217-2.jpg

    Biltoft HCC PU, TI 13-53 flatwounds, not too low action.

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    Scotty Anderson:


    I guess he can play any kind of guitar he wants. Most often see him with the Tele.

    By the way, Kris, I've been looking at some of your videos with that violinist.
    Holy shit, man, you guys are terrific.

    Bill

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    Martino and Metheny have both used solid bodies at certain times. Tim Miller's guitar is not a solid body but it's not archtop...

    Lorne lofsky, Ted Greene, Sonny sharrock, Nels Cline, John McLaughlin, Al DiMeola, Allan Holdsworth...I'm sure hilmar jensson has used some solid bodies.

    I mean you can get to a point where the question becomes "is it jazz?" but some of the above are straight ahead players, or play straight ahead at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlescountry
    Clint Strong used his LP Custom for a long time.
    He use Parker guitar also I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldane
    1. They sound good when set up the right way
    2. No feedback problems
    3. Much more rugged and roadworthy
    4. Often more comfortable to hold
    5. Takes op less space (may with luck be taken as hand luggage on air planes)
    6. Often cheaper than hollowbodies
    7. Did I mention, they sound good when set up appropiately?
    Here's my Warmoth "jazzcaster":

    http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/..._NDC8217-2.jpg

    Biltoft HCC PU, TI 13-53 flatwounds, not too low action.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by bil
    Scotty Anderson:


    I guess he can play any kind of guitar he wants. Most often see him with the Tele.

    By the way, Kris, I've been looking at some of your videos with that violinist.
    Holy shit, man, you guys are terrific.

    Bill
    Thanks Bill...:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeAcci
    Martino and Metheny have both used solid bodies at certain times. Tim Miller's guitar is not a solid body but it's not archtop...

    Lorne lofsky, Ted Greene, Sonny sharrock, Nels Cline, John McLaughlin, Al DiMeola, Allan Holdsworth...I'm sure hilmar jensson has used some solid bodies.

    I mean you can get to a point where the question becomes "is it jazz?" but some of the above are straight ahead players, or play straight ahead at times.
    +1

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    John Abercrombie
    Bruce Arnold
    Les Paul
    Lenny Breau
    Kevin Eubanks
    Hiram Bullock
    Steve Khan
    Frank Gambale
    Irving Ashby
    Joe Beck
    Bill Connors
    Barry Finnerty
    Joe Morris
    and many more....of course some of these guys grab a hollowbody, everyone seems to go through a Wes phase before they get too old.

    I think the solidbody offers more versatility, more bite and sustain, if that's what you want. Much less chance of feedback. Personally, soundwise, a semihollow sounds closer to a solidbody than a hollowbody, so add Scofield and all the 335 style players to the list. I find a hollowbody to be more limited than a solid in the different sounds it can produce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
    John Abercrombie
    Bruce Arnold
    Les Paul
    Lenny Breau
    Kevin Eubanks
    Hiram Bullock
    Steve Khan
    Frank Gambale
    Irving Ashby
    Joe Beck
    Bill Connors
    Barry Finnerty
    Joe Morris
    and many more....of course some of these guys grab a hollowbody, everyone seems to go through a Wes phase before they get too old.

    I think the solidbody offers more versatility, more bite and sustain, if that's what you want. Much less chance of feedback. Personally, soundwise, a semihollow sounds closer to a solidbody than a hollowbody, so add Scofield and all the 335 style players to the list. I find a hollowbody to be more limited than a solid in the different sounds it can produce.
    +1

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    I'm sure most Jazz Guitarists have played a solid body guitar, why wouldn't they.

    Here's an old old video with Joe Pass on a Fender Jaguar.

    Nuff


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    Floyd Smith, Billy Butler, Larry Coryell also used solid bodies

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    Ed Bickert

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    I love my Tele but also like to play my arch-top with more acoustic respone....:-)

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    Certainly, there are many of us that do not adhere to traditional "standards."

    I am currently playing on a stratocaster, an instrument not immediately associated with jazz music. Does this make what I am playing less "jazz" because of its shape and design? I also have a very non-jazz tone coming from my amp, which I think makes my compositions a tad more interesting.

    I guess it just depends on what school of jazz you come from. If you play Pass/Montgomery tunes all the time, I can see why solid body instruments would not appeal to you.

    If you write your own material, you're more likely to explore other sonic possibilities to enhance your compositions instead of the tried-and-true clean jazz tones of the past 70 years.

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    I disagree that hollow bodies are less versatile. I think it is an illusion created by the fact that solid body players have been more likely use effects. All those effects can also be used with a hollow body though. There are plenty of bands that play hollow body guitars and get crazy sounds. Queens of the stone age even used hollow guitars exclusively for a while and that's about as far from straight ahead jazz tone as you can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Scott
    Certainly, there are many of us that do not adhere to traditional "standards."

    I am currently playing on a stratocaster, an instrument not immediately associated with jazz music. Does this make what I am playing less "jazz" because of its shape and design? I also have a very non-jazz tone coming from my amp, which I think makes my compositions a tad more interesting.

    I guess it just depends on what school of jazz you come from. If you play Pass/Montgomery tunes all the time, I can see why solid body instruments would not appeal to you.

    If you write your own material, you're more likely to explore other sonic possibilities to enhance your compositions instead of the tried-and-true clean jazz tones of the past 70 years.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandor
    I disagree that hollow bodies are less versatile. I think it is an illusion created by the fact that solid body players have been more likely use effects. All those effects can also be used with a hollow body though. There are plenty of bands that play hollow body guitars and get crazy sounds. Queens of the stone age even used hollow guitars exclusively for a while and that's about as far from straight ahead jazz tone as you can get.
    It is imposible to play loud on hollow-body.
    This is a big problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzkenny
    Floyd Smith, Billy Butler, Larry Coryell also used solid bodies
    Sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris
    It is imposible to play loud on hollow-body.
    This is a big problem!
    I remeber seeing prog rock band "Yes" live back in the 70's. Steve Howe played an ES175 (and still does) - very, very loud ! I guess he did use the feedback sometimes, but not too much, and it was very controlled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newsense
    I remeber seeing prog rock band "Yes" live back in the 70's. Steve Howe played an ES175 (and still does) - very, very loud ! I guess he did use the feedback sometimes, but not too much, and it was very controlled.
    Yes How(e) did he do that ??

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    Es-175 is different...I/ve used this guitar in 1985-87 in my band.Guitar sounded not bad with effects and distortion...but at louder playing feedbact was very big.
    Today I use d'Aquisto clone and it is impossible to play loud...I never to try play with distortion on it.