Official Barry Harris Thread

[christianm77]

Well the phrases are all fairly simple no?

5 = descending fifth followed by ascending fourth decorated by lower neighbour on second note and upper neighbour on 3rd note
4 = 3 note enclosure/surround
3 = pivot arpeggio
2 = chromatic approach thingy

So they should all work. Might need to change the order of notes in 4. I always think it’s best to use diatonic upper and lower for that and slot the chromatic in where there’s a gap.

[joe2758]

haha ya'll just saying stuff from my post. I use the minor 4 phrase where needed

[tamirgal]

Different example, but here playing a minor 5-3ish phrase from the ii minor. Played in ii-V context (last four bars of the blues).

The pivot arpeggio of the 3 phrase in ii minor is the same as the 7th of the dominant, and that’s classic barry.

[joe2758]

Hey, i thought this might be a fun challenge for you guys. Here is a list of chord moves: ( ° is half diminished for this post)
1. I - im7
2. V9 - ii° - V alt
3. I - #iv°
4. ii° - V alt
5. iim7 - V9
6. I - II9 - iim7

The puzzle is what do all these have in common?

[Tdoloco]

I have no clue! Maybe you can share some insight on this?

[christianm77]

I haven’t a Scooby

[bako]

The puzzle is what do all these have in common?

Probably not the answer you are looking for but these are all either dominant or subdominant moves that
can bring it back to I major.

[joe2758]

They are all minor third movements (here's in C):

1. C6 to Eb6
2. Dm6 to Fm6 to Abm6
3. C6 to Am6
4. Fmin6 to Ab min6
5. F6 to Dm6
6. C6 to Am6 - and then I was wrong on the iim7 I think lol

but anyway, the point is I've been practicing cycles of minor thirds in closest inversions. The result is I can play these moves easily without thinking in any inversion (well, I'm still working on it but I'm seeing nice results). These are just the ones I've found from looking at how high the moon and Cherokee...I'll keep looking for more as I work on various tunes I think.

Some things I don't necessarily think of another chord for example F6 to G9 I just lower the 5th etc

[tamirgal]

You guys seen this?

[Petimar]

For Confirmation, I have the following outlines. Can Any of you Barry Harris experts let me know if I missed anything?


First A;
F major up
C7 down to third of A
Dm up
F7 up
Bb7 up
D7 up
G7 up
C7 up


Second and third A;
F major up
C7 down to third of A
Dm up
F7 up
Bb7 up
D7 up
C7 up
F major up


B part
F7 up and down
Bb major up and down
Ab7 up and down
Db major up
C7 up

[Tal_175]

For Confirmation, I have the following outlines. Can Any of you Barry Harris experts let me know if I missed anything?


First A;
F major up
C7 down to third of A
Dm up
F7 up
Bb7 up
D7 up
G7 up
C7 up


Second and third A;
F major up
C7 down to third of A
Dm up
F7 up
Bb7 up
D7 up
C7 up
F major up


B part
F7 up and down
Bb major up and down
Ab7 up and down
Db major up
C7 up

The charts I have show the third bar of the A sections as |Dmin G7|, so I'd use G7 instead of Dmin there.

[joe2758]

I understand needing some confirmation on that. sorry.

[joe2758]

bar 3: G7 up is probably what is standard...Dm is cool too though. rest looks good from what I know

[christianm77]

For Confirmation, I have the following outlines. Can Any of you Barry Harris experts let me know if I missed anything?


First A;
F major up
C7 down to third of A
Dm up
F7 up
Bb7 up
D7 up
G7 up
C7 up


Second and third A;
F major up
C7 down to third of A
Dm up
F7 up
Bb7 up
D7 up
C7 up
F major up


B part
F7 up and down
Bb major up and down
Ab7 up and down
Db major up
C7 up

Looks good to me.

You could go F7 down to 3rd D7 on the D7. That’s the option Roni Ben Hur prefers as it’s more in the key, but either is cool.

You are not going to have enough time to play the scales for G7 C7 on the second A, and I see you just put C7 there, which is fine, but you could play 1-2-3-5 instead.

[David B]

Article in JazzTimes this week: Inside the Barry Harris Method - JazzTimes

[Petimar]

You could go F7 down to 3rd D7 on the D7. That’s the option Roni Ben Hur prefers as it’s more in the key, but either is cool.

Very cool, don't know why I didn't see that. I like this and will start using this.

Thanks everyone! Its little nuggets like this that keep me asking.

By the way, anyone still working through Chris' videos?

[joe2758]

Very cool, don't know why I didn't see that. I like this and will start using this.

Thanks everyone! Its little nuggets like this that keep me asking.

By the way, anyone still working through Chris' videos?

Not in the same way I was, but that was SUPER beneficial while it lasted. Right now I have a pretty narrow scope of what I'm working on as I prepare for a Howard Rees intensive workshop in August

[Tal_175]

Not in the same way I was, but that was SUPER beneficial while it lasted. Right now I have a pretty narrow scope of what I'm working on as I prepare for a Howard Rees intensive workshop in August

Do you know that Barry Harris is actually giving a workshop in Howard Rees's studio in May?

[joe2758]

Do you know that Barry Harris is actually giving a workshop in Howard Rees's studio in May?

Yeah I'm going to try to make it, but I'm not sure if i can. The Auguest one I was able to clear my schedule for. Anyone else going to either?

[Tal_175]

Yeah I'm going to try to make it, but I'm not sure if i can. The Auguest one I was able to clear my schedule for. Anyone else going to either?

Not sure yet. I have attended in the past both Barry Harris and Howard Rees workshops in that same location though.

[tamirgal]

Yeah I'm going to try to make it, but I'm not sure if i can. The Auguest one I was able to clear my schedule for. Anyone else going to either?

I wish I could make any of these. But not in this lifetime

[joe2758]

Not sure yet. I have attended in the past both Barry Harris and Howard Rees workshops in that same location though.

Well shoot me a message if you can go; would be cool to meet you.

[pcjazz]

Yeah I'm going to try to make it, but I'm not sure if i can. The Auguest one I was able to clear my schedule for. Anyone else going to either?

I’ll be at the Saturday and Sunday harmony classes in May, the only ones that fit my schedule. I haven’t missed a chance to see Barry in Toronto in at least the last ten years.

[Tal_175]

Well shoot me a message if you can go; would be cool to meet you.

Definitely. Likewise.

[joe2758]

I’ll be at the Saturday morning harmony class in May, the only one that fits my schedule. I haven’t missed a chance to see Barry in Toronto in at least the last ten years.

Cool! Yeah anyone going should shoot me a message. I'm coming all the way from Pennsylvania