What do I really need to practice

[Reg]

Hi Peter...

Your a fine player, teacher and musician... and I'm just another musician etc...

But what or where else would you like to go as a guitar player?

I think you have great ideas, seem more than enough educated etc... but you could use more chops.

Not just burnin solos etc.... Get your rhythmic chops up. With feels, changes and lead lines on changes.
(requires layers of subdividing)

Develop longer rhythmic patterns that repeat and lock, or even better, feel or imply repeat. Then learn to develop harmonic patterns that work with those rhythmic patters... within Forms of tunes.

Time spent of voicing and inversions... just don't produce good playing generally. They're like playing scales or arpeggios etc... great for a part of working on technical skills.

[AllanAllen]

Im playing a high dollar wedding this weekend that’s all jazz versions of anime music so we’ll find out.



Sure. All I’m saying is that they’re two different skills. And that I think maybe you’d be surprised by how much you learn about other tunes from of a deep dive relative to the tunes you skim.

And some tunes just lend themselves to skimming.

Bye Bye Blackbird kind of just is what it is.

Stella will give you something different every time you come back to it — little similarities with other tunes you didn’t notice before, common progressions disguised until you decipher them etc.

(These are imperfect terms btw … I know you’re not saying “don’t spend time on cool tunes” — you’re trying to express that churning through some simple tunes and learning the patterns and seeing similarities is super helpful and makes learning tunes easier in the future. Agree with you there. Just saying that deep dives really help with that too, in ways that are maybe less predictable and not so clear cut. Maybe more helpful in my personal experience?

Ideally I find myself doing what I did with classical guitar — at any given time, a couple concert pieces that I might be working on for six months and a couple etudes I might be working on for two weeks. Sort of crank through the latter while really diving into the former. Jazz tunes I find myself doing something similar — a chunky tune for a while and some simple GASB tunes that I might crank thick in the meantime or keep revisiting and refreshing or whatever)

I agree with everything except Stella. I think Stella is wonderbread toast with margarine. Dull and unfulfilling. I can listen to Ella sing it, and immediately after it’s over I don’t remember any of the words or melody. I just don’t get the appeal of that tune.

[Christian Miller]

music from anime shows

Is one of them the theme for series one of Attack on Titan? Because that’s a banger.


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[pamosmusic]

Hi Peter...

Your a fine player, teacher and musician... and I'm just another musician etc...

But what or where else would you like to go as a guitar player?

I think you have great ideas, seem more than enough educated etc... but you could use more chops.

Not just burnin solos etc.... Get your rhythmic chops up. With feels, changes and lead lines on changes.
(requires layers of subdividing)

Develop longer rhythmic patterns that repeat and lock, or even better, feel or imply repeat. Then learn to develop harmonic patterns that work with those rhythmic patters... within Forms of tunes.

Time spent of voicing and inversions... just don't produce good playing generally. They're like playing scales or arpeggios etc... great for a part of working on technical skills.

I would like to disagree with you, but unfortunately you more or less have me pegged.

[pamosmusic]

I agree with everything except Stella. I think Stella is wonderbread toast with margarine. Dull and unfulfilling. I can listen to Ella sing it, and immediately after it’s over I don’t remember any of the words or melody. I just don’t get the appeal of that tune.

Get my girls name out of your mouth.

How very dare you …

[AllanAllen]

Get my girls name out of your mouth.

How very dare you …

[emanresu]

what?

The stats needed for jazz guitar playing.
dexterity, coordination, sense of time, good ears, musical memory (also visual memory mixed with abstract one for patterns and such), abstract thinking, its a large bundle of traits that needs to be above average to make it happen.
Often (almost always) one of those are lacking and sometimes sucks so much that it is difficult to even develop.
That's the lottery.

[pamosmusic]

Often (almost always) one of those are lacking and sometimes sucks so much that it is difficult to even develop.
That's the lottery.

That’s silliness.

[pamosmusic]

Is one of them the theme for series one of Attack on Titan? Because that’s a banger.


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I don’t think so?

Not a big anime guy … a couple from anime and a few from video games. Not a big video game guy either. But we’re doing song of storms from Zelda … that’s also a banger

EDIT:

I have a cocktail set with a trio, but the big group set is more video games it seems. This is the group and we’re doing Nii Akweis arrangement of this one

[CliffR]

I don’t think so?

Not a big anime guy … a couple from anime and a few from video games. Not a big video game guy either. But we’re doing song of storms from Zelda … that’s also a banger

That *is* a banger! My youngest daughter' is a big anime fan and I seem to remember her telling me Attack On Titan is pretty disturbing. We're both huge Nintendo and Zelda fans, though. Please post some clips of your gig!

[Christian Miller]

I dep in a big band that does this chart quite a bit

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[pauln]

Music has about 7 lottery numbers. Those have to be above average in a person to go and woo. If below - skip reading, skip soloing, skip composing forever. Got to skip a lot.
Fortunately there are things to do with less numbers in music lottery. Sadly, jazz needs a lot

The three you mention suggest three more (their "opposites")

reading - playing by ear
soloing - accompanying
composing - transcribing

What else...

chord melody?

[emanresu]

I rather thought about the generic traits.

But I see where you are getting to.

Physical clumsiness - quit your instrument and start singing fgs!

[CliffR]

I rather thought about the generic traits.

But I see where you are getting to.

Physical clumsiness - quit your instrument and start singing fgs!

Well I'm in trouble: terribly clumsy and I can't sing for toffee.

[emanresu]

whistle

[AdroitMage]

I managed to not book tickets somehow which was weird because I remember clicking the button. To be honest I was relieved. Knackering day.

I’ve seen Kurt a couple of times. First in 2007. He’s great. Hopefully I will catch him again soon.

Bummer. Knackering day? If you lived in the States, you would have to think twice about saying that one.

Seeing Kurt is on my bucket list too

[AllanAllen]

Bummer. Knackering day? If you lived in the States, you would have to think twice about saying that one.

Seeing Kurt is on my bucket list too

Why? I’m unaware of any American English use of the word.

[CliffR]

whistle

You whistle

[emanresu]

no u

[pauln]

[AdroitMage]

Why? I’m unaware of any American English use of the word.

Say that word without the suffix. If you still don't get it, then, WOW.

[buduranus2]

When a topic comes with a question mark, the thread gets flooded with answers.
Responders offer what they know — but rarely what they don’t know, and almost never what they’re unaware of not knowing. That’s true for every response.

Reminds me of Donald Rumsfeld: "There are known knowns; known unknowns; and unknown unknowns."

[CliffR]

Say that word without the suffix. If you still don't get it, then, WOW.

I'm English, but lived in the US for 10 years and am married to an American woman. I don't think I've ever heard an American use that word or anything like it. In the UK it has a variety of meanings. Knacker's yard is the place old horses are taken to be turned into glue; knackered means tired or broken; knackers means testicles, knack means know-how or 'hang of', eg it takes a while to get the knack of economy picking. What are you thinking of?

[emanresu]

Reminds me of Donald Rumsfeld: "There are known knowns; known unknowns; and unknown unknowns."

Yeah, it is a helpful and sobering thing to remember always when a topic is kinda hazy.

[AllanAllen]

Say that word without the suffix. If you still don't get it, then, WOW.

You’re grasping at nothing.