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    Knowing the melody well and knowing good chord changes is essential in jazz music.
    I mean jazz standards.
    It's a pity that Ireal Pro doesn't have melodies in tunes and during jam sessions musicians only look at chord changes often without knowing the melody .I know from experience that it doesn't bother them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    I decided not to date Beatrice at this time, blind dates can be scary.

    Name that tune.... Rubato, as I said - maybe too much so. Dude needs a backing track to stay on track!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiFi Mule2Ride
    A little bit of melody from Pharoah Sanders’ “The Creator Has a Master Plan”
    I saw the plan, no mention of resonator guitars in it at all, may have been added later in an addendum, but more likely they were the work of the guy to whom Robert Johnson allegedly sold his soul.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    One can improvise on the melody of a song without knowing its chord changes, in fact it's harder to do that well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Miller
    Also depends on the tune - easier for Lady be Good than Giant Steps
    Only jazz musicians think Giant Steps has a melody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    I decided not to date Beatrice at this time, blind dates can be scary.

    Name that tune.... Rubato, as I said - maybe too much so. Dude needs a backing track to stay on track!

    I don't even know what I played at the end of this, accidental harmonics or something.

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    So I started working on It's Only a Paper Moon, and while I was working on it, this thread had grown to 4 pages, with only a handful of videos. 'Twas ever thus...

    By the way, the last part of that 30 minutes of practicing the melody can be a video of multiple takes, which may help some with performance anxiety... then, of course, choose the best one to upload!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    I saw the plan, no mention of resonator guitars in it at all, may have been added later in an addendum, but more likely they were the work of the guy to whom Robert Johnson allegedly sold his soul.





    Only jazz musicians think Giant Steps has a melody.
    It does and it would make a very good football chant


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    I needed an easy Jazz blues to play, so I repeatedly listened to the 'Blue Bird' theme for a while, then sang-a-long to the theme, then played the theme on my guitar for about 30mins. Then I notated what I thought was the theme and and chords. (No need to record a video.)

    I know it's an easy theme, but the 30min 'Just Melody' idea worked very well.

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    I'll go to my grave saying that Giant Steps is actually a really catchy tune.

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    I suppose this thread is my chance to work on techniques I've avoided for so many years like playing the melody in harmonics and as a two-part invention.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    I'll go to my grave saying that Giant Steps is actually a really catchy tune.
    Suppose it could be if it had better lyrics, they're not at all memorable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    I suppose this thread is my chance to work on techniques I've avoided for so many years like playing the melody in harmonics and as a two-part invention.
    Or you could just record yourself playing a melody instead of relentlessly trying to reinvent the thread.

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    Giant Steps has great lyrics!

    Giant Steps goes fast,
    Watch the--
    Chord changes fly past
    Lose your place,
    Big disgrace
    Guitar's back
    In it's case!
    LOS-ER.





    Last edited by mr. beaumont; 01-06-2025 at 04:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Miller
    It does and it would make a very good football chant


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    Well, I hope Jeff appreciates this. He may not have time because he said he's doing baseball... except, according to the internet, it's -4 in Chicago today so good luck with that :-)

    I've definitely spent my 30 mins on this. I took a tune that I didn't know, had never done, and did it several ways -- But Beautiful, the one just before Bye Bye Blackbird in the RB.

    First was with a 'metronome' beat to it. That's because it's very slow with big gaps and it would be too difficult to do it accurately unless it was done rubato. So it had a beat.

    Then I put a bass line in which made it a bit more palatable.

    Then I put the chords in which was better. Then I did a solo over it. I enjoyed doing that, I think it's what this music is all about otherwise you're just copying a melody really, although it has to be done.

    I don 't suppose anyone's very interested but that's okay, your own stuff is far more gripping :-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    Well, I hope Jeff appreciates this. He may not have time because he said he's doing baseball... except, according to the internet, it's -4 in Chicago today so good luck with that :-)

    I've definitely spent my 30 mins on this. I took a tune that I didn't know, had never done, and did it several ways -- But Beautiful, the one just before Bye Bye Blackbird in the RB.

    First was with a 'metronome' beat to it. That's because it's very slow with big gaps and it would be too difficult to do it accurately unless it was done rubato. So it had a beat.

    Then I put a bass line in which made it a bit more palatable.

    Then I put the chords in which was better. Then I did a solo over it. I enjoyed doing that, I think it's what this music is all about otherwise you're just copying a melody really, although it has to be done.

    I don 't suppose anyone's very interested but that's okay, your own stuff is far more gripping :-)

    Sounds nice, rag. You've inspired me, melody #4 for me will be "But Beautiful."

    Gonna try and find some time to post melody #3 (These Foolish Things) soon...

    Oh, by the way, it's basketball that is all life consuming right now, not baseball. Outdoor baseball in January in Chicago would be crazy... Even though it's cold here but not COLD yet. That's likely coming though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    it's basketball
    That makes more sense, sorry!

    Thanks, glad you're inspired. Look forward to hearing it.

    (minus 6 here, by the way, but I'm not going anywhere)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    I don't have performance anxiety.
    Quote Originally Posted by pamosmusic
    Ragman, you are a hero among men and a role model for us all, so let’s just assume that all advice given on this forum is only applicable to the mortals like myself
    Not performing is a sure why to eliminate performance anxiety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    Not performing is a sure why to eliminate performance anxiety.

    Dude.... there are so many people here with anxiety disorders.

    (This is a general note, not specifically to Mick): If reading this is upsetting to you, you probably have an anxiety disorder and you don't need to live this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    Dude.... there are so many people here with anxiety disorders.

    (This is a general note, not specifically to Mick): If reading this is upsetting to you, you probably have an anxiety disorder and you don't need to live this way.
    Just to be clear, "performance anxiety" is a specific term pertaining to those who perform in public, and since, as far as I know, ragman does not perform live, it's not surprising he would not have a problem with it.

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    I understood your message, but it just reminded me of other people who post clips with a disclaimer like "please be kind I'm just a hobbyist. Maybe one day I'll go to a jam" and it's perfectly fine jazz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-7
    Just to be clear, "performance anxiety" is a specific term pertaining to those who perform in public, and since, as far as I know, ragman does not perform live, it's not surprising he would not have a problem with it.
    Every time I hit record on my phone and attempt to play something, I get a bit of performance anxiety... or whatever it is (anxiety is a negative way to look at it).
    It's still a performance, because it will be out there for others to see and hear. It's different than practicing by myself. Red Light Fever!!!

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    Excellent, Allan. Good choice.

    My, you have come a long way from back when! In terms of learning jazz, etc, that's a steep curve. I hope you don't mind my saying that, but true it is. Remember the dogs running up the stairs while you messed up the head of whatever-it-was? I do.

    See, I'm being paternal :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    Excellent, Allan. Good choice.

    My, you have come a long way from back when! In terms of learning that's a steep curve. I hope you don't mind my saying that, but true it is. Remember the dogs running up the stairs while you messed up the head of whatever-it-was? I do.

    See, I'm being paternal :-)
    It was a clip of summertime. You pushed me in just the right way, at just the right time and I’m grateful for it.

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    Possibly, but no one can do it for you but you. And you have. Between you and me, I always thought you could. How long ago was that?

    (edit)

    I just looked it up. Only 3 years. That's impressive.

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    That was 2021. It was all the gigs and jam sessions that got me together.

    Well, the preparation for said events.