The coolest sound in jazz - new video

[Christian Miller]

Add SPICE to your solos and chording

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[AllanAllen]

Before watching, I’m going to guess b9.

[pingu]

Excellent work again Mr Christian

love it ….

[Christian Miller]

Before watching, I’m going to guess b9.

You’re 50% right ;-)


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[AllanAllen]

I am big and clever.


Edit: After watching the video I'm scared and confused.

[Old Nick]

excellent, thank you!

[jameslovestal]

Easy to follow presentation that will help me with my playing.

[Christian Miller]

I am big and clever.


Edit: After watching the video I'm scared and confused.

Haha! It’s quite a lot of info compressed into 15m.


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[Christian Miller]

excellent, thank you!

Thanks


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[AllanAllen]

Haha! It’s quite a lot of info compressed into 15m.


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I think you should put less info in and make twice as many videos. On the other hand… the density did get me to buy the PDF.

[Christian Miller]

I think you should put less info in and make twice as many videos. On the other hand… the density did get me to buy the PDF.

That’s exactly what I keep telling myself. This is just the way it comes out.


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[pingu]

A question Mr Christian ….

in for example
|Dm7 |G13b9. | C. |

over the G you mention
subbing Emaj triad to get the notes
E 6th of G
G#(Ab) b9 of G
B 3rd of G

do you ever think

rootless Dbmin 7
to get the same stuff

E , Ab , B

(it seems easier to me)

or is there some reason I shouldn’t
do this ?

[Christian Miller]

A question Mr Christian ….

in for example
|Dm7 |G13b9. | C. |

over the G you mention
subbing Emaj triad to get the notes
E 6th of G
G#(Ab) b9 of G
B 3rd of G

do you ever think

rootless Dbmin 7
to get the same stuff

E , Ab , B

(it seems easier to me)

or is there some reason I shouldn’t
do this ?

Presumably so you can treat it as a tritone sub? I don’t see that as any easier because I don’t have the object “rootless m7” well integrated into my playing and mind. I’d have to think about it. So I’d rather think triad.

But if you do, sure. I’m not the interval police.

But the full Dbm7 on G7 is absolutely a thing and it’s sometimes called the Herbie (Hancock) sub. I could have mentioned it in this video, but sort of forgot. if you pay attention I do use it in the section where I am demonstrating the minor chords in minor thirds albeit without the seventh. The Db points us towards the dominant-diminished sound rather than the harmonic major/maj6-diminished

The challenge of a subs based approach is to internalise these intervallic relationships. As I said in the subs video this takes time and you need to just consistently practice it. Choose one at a time until it is natural.
Little and often.


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[AllanAllen]

But the full Dbm7 on G7 is absolutely a thing and it’s sometimes called the Herbie (Hancock) sub

Isnt this a Barry Harris thing too? Play the ii or the V straight over the ii V.

[Christian Miller]

Isnt this a Barry Harris thing too? Play the ii or the V straight over the ii V.

That’s a Dbm7, not a Dm7, so a bit different

But that’s not a Barry thing specifically. Everybody does that sometimes.

Barry just thinks about the scale being the dominant scale, which includes loads of chords.


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[pamosmusic]

That’s a Dbm7, not a Dm7, so a bit different

But that’s not a Barry thing specifically. Everybody does that sometimes.

Barry just thinks about the scale being the dominant scale, which includes loads of chords.


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I guess you could kind of get there from Barry Land. I believe Thomas Echols would call this The Ugliest Duckling.

So there’s the regular V chord (G7), there’s up a m3 (Bb7 over G) which is the back door, and there’s the tritone sub (Db7 over G). And he calls the dominant down a m3 (E7 over G). The Ugliest Duckling. Which I think is charming.

Though minor for that would be Bm7 which would be pretty doggone out.

[AllanAllen]

Christian saw my mistake. I didn't see the flat.

[Christian Miller]

I guess you could kind of get there from Barry Land. I believe Thomas Echols would call this The Ugliest Duckling.

So there’s the regular V chord (G7), there’s up a m3 (Bb7 over G) which is the back door, and there’s the tritone sub (Db7 over G). And he calls the dominant down a m3 (E7 over G). The Ugliest Duckling. Which I think is charming.

Though minor for that would be Bm7 which would be pretty doggone out.

WAAAAAAAK


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[Cunamara]

I think of the 13b9 chords as the "Coltrane chord," a la the "Hendrix chord." Mainly because Coltrane was where I heard it first.

[Christian Miller]

I think of the 13b9 chords as the "Coltrane chord," a la the "Hendrix chord." Mainly because Coltrane was where I heard it first.

Sure, Trane liked the diminished scale obv.

the voicing is in things like Naima. IIRC he spells the voicing out in his autograph chart?

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