Am11

[Oetomo]

To all the Jazz Jedi Masters, I am Jazz apprentice seeking enlightenment.

Am11: A (5th string open), E(4th string, second fret), G (3rd string, open), D ( 2nd string 3rd fret), E(1st string, open).

Do I commit a cardinal sin if I used the above voicings since I have left out the b3 entirely, which essentially turns the chord into A7sus4?

Thank you.

[bako]

No sin with eternal consequence
We can represent most functional harmonies with various notes missing or extra notes added.
Excuse the pun but the C note is but a minor omission.

[bkdavidson]

What Bako said, it won't hurt anyone. The ear (yes, even the listener's) will fill in the missing notes. If you want to put in the 3rd, you can leave the A and high E open, and play G (4th stg. 5th fret), C (3rd stg. 5th fret) and D (2nd stg. 3rd fret).

[JohnW400]

You may already know this voicing. But,if you want to have the C in the chord try this

x 0 5 5 3 0 (A G C D E)

[mr. beaumont]

as stated above, no prob-- context will dictate how it functions and how it's heard.

[bako]

Some other 5 note inversions of m11.

1 11 b7 b3 5// b3 5 1 11 b7// 11 b7 b3 5 1// 5 1 11 b7 b3// b7 b3 5 1 11//

For some inversions beside root and 5th in the bass they function best if the register is not too low.
The successful range for those chords can be expanded somewhat by rolling off some bass frequencies and or by playing softer than the bass player.

In addition to John's a few other root inversions Am11 in the same region of the neck.

x 0 2 5 3 3// x 0 2 5 3 0// x 0 2 5 3 5 // x 0 5 5 3 7//

5th in the bass

0 7 7 5 3 3

[Gilles]

I would play what BkDavidson and JohnW4000 said.

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

When it comes to leaving out notes:

1. If someone else is playing a bassline, leave out the root -- it's covered.
2. The next to leave out is the fifth, when natural, since it is strongly implied by the overtones of the root.

My favourite Amin11: 5x553x

Play this with a samba beat and drink some rum:

5x553x
4x453x
3x331x
2x231x
1x221x

[mr. beaumont]

i'll have mine with a capirinha, big daddy.

[JohnW400]

Here, BDLH, this ones for you


x 0 9 5 8 10 (x A B C G D)

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

Originally Posted by JohnW400

Here, BDLH, this ones for you


x 0 9 5 8 10 (x A B C G D)

I'll have to see if I can grab that without taking off a shoe!

EDIT: Yes i can! Love that minor 2nd.

[Oetomo]

To all teh Jedi Jazz Masters,

Thank you.

I am enlightened, let's see if I can move that Millenium Falcon that got stuck in the mud.

[cosmic gumbo]

I like minor 11 to have the minor 3 to differentiate it from a 11 chord. A 1st position voicing for Am11 I might use would be- x00010 -My favorite Am11 : 555555

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo

I like minor 11 to have the minor 3 to differentiate it from a 11 chord. A 1st position voicing for Am11 I might use would be- x00010 -My favorite Am11 : 555555

Minor 11th is the "So What" chord:



x77787
x55565 !

[Goofsus4]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles

Minor 11th is the "So What" chord:



x77787
x55565 !

What are all those little black dot thingies?

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

That reminds me: the Wikipedia entry for the album "Kind of Blue" mentions "Another example is the introduction to "So What", attributed to Gil Evans, which is closely based on the opening measures of French composer Claude Debussy's Voiles (1910), the second prelude from his first collection of preludes." Been meaning to look up that Debussy...

[Reg]

Debussy was great composer... check out Alexander Skriabin ( Scriabin ).
His later composition are way cool. One of first to use molodic min. a lot.
He did appear to be a little ?, he saw things differently. Divine Poem, any late opus #'s, I like 72 and 74. Reg

[cosmic gumbo]

Originally Posted by Goofsus4

What are all those little black dot thingies?

My Uncle Goober calls that fly specks and chicken scratches. He says clarinet players can read it.