Signs and Symbols ??

[pingu]

Hi all,

a proposal with the aim of more clarity ....

could we all write bar lines as |

and save the symbol / for slash chords eg G/A etc

For example .....

|A-7 D7 | Gm7 C7 | Fmaj7/A | Bb/C |

Seems clearer to me ....
what do we think of that ?

[christianm77]

I do that so obviously I think so haha

[mr. beaumont]

And while we're at at...

+ means augmented. the FIFTH. THE FIFTH IS RAISED. Stop with this Cmaj7+11 or E7+9 GARBAGE.

And don't get me started on people who use "M" for major and "m" for minor.

[BBGuitar]

If only there was a clear standard. Only a dream.

[christianm77]

And while we're at at...

+ means augmented. the FIFTH. THE FIFTH IS RAISED. Stop with this Cmaj7+11 or E7+9 GARBAGE.

And don't get me started on people who use "M" for major and "m" for minor.

Kill them

[joe2758]

And while we're at at...

+ means augmented. the FIFTH. THE FIFTH IS RAISED. Stop with this Cmaj7+11 or E7+9 GARBAGE.

And don't get me started on people who use "M" for major and "m" for minor.

yeah, I don't pay much mind to extension symbols, but I would have read that as Cmaj7 with a raised 5th and a natural 11th and E7 with a raised 5th and natural 9.

the M and m is used in classical theory, not saying that makes it anymore clear though

[grahambop]

people who play that nasty jazz music with those nasty jazz cords should be loked up and thro away the key just sayin.

[BBGuitar]

How about using " - " for minor. Big band charts are all over the place, many times I have to study the whole chart just to find out how a minor is noted.

In a feeble defense of "M" for major and "m" for minor. It was taught in theory class to describe intervals the minor had to have a line over the m or it was marked wrong. Using it for chords just adds to the confusion.

I like the interval "diminished second".

[rabbit]

So, yous guys still aspire to understand all this stuff?

Wow.

[joe2758]

So, yous guys still aspire to understand all this stuff?

Wow.

have to love the cool-guy responses

[Hep To The Jive]

While we at it, no #11 on dom 7th chords- it's b5 for God's sake! On the guitar, anyway. You think anyone is going to play #11 and natural 5th at the same time on the guitar??

So like C7b5, not C7#11, pls.

[mr. beaumont]

While we at it, no #11 on dom 7th chords- it's b5 for God's sake! On the guitar, anyway. You think anyone is going to play #11 and natural 5th at the same time on the guitar??

So like C7b5, not C7#11, pls.

I don't mind that as much, because it kinda gives me a better idea as to what the person who wrote the chart is hearing function wise/what notes are acceptable against it...at least in a modern style non-functional harmony type of situation...not Take the A Train

Assuming they use it correctly, which is a whole 'nuther can of worms.

[pingu]

While we at it, no #11 on dom 7th chords- it's b5 for God's sake! On the guitar, anyway. You think anyone is going to play #11 and natural 5th at the same time on the guitar??

So like C7b5, not C7#11, pls.

sorry got to dissagree with you ...
if it's the common Lydian Dominant type sound
(from Fmelodic minor)

anyway what do you think of | for bar lines ?
and / saved for slash chords ?

[pingu]

And while we're at at...

+ means augmented. the FIFTH. THE FIFTH IS RAISED. Stop with this Cmaj7+11 or E7+9 GARBAGE.

agree that ...

[mr. beaumont]

anyway what do you think of | for bar lines ?
And / saved for slash chords ?

absolutely yes.

[emanresu]

There is no ascii code for triangle

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

While we at it, no #11 on dom 7th chords- it's b5 for God's sake! On the guitar, anyway. You think anyone is going to play #11 and natural 5th at the same time on the guitar??

So like C7b5, not C7#11, pls.

As mentioned, cool lydian dominant sound:

C7#11: x35352
or
8x8.11.8.12

[rabbit]

anyway what do you think of | for bar lines ?
and / saved for slash chords ?

Talk about dry humor.

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

Hi all,

a proposal with the aim of more clarity ....

could we all write bar lines as |

and save the symbol / for slash chords eg G/A etc

For example .....

|A-7 D7 | Gm7 C7 | Fmaj7/A | Bb/C |

Seems clearer to me ....
what do we think of that ?

What polychords, like B triad over C triad? I write it B|C. Context (or spacing) should tell you that is not a bar line.

[dot75]

There is no ascii code for triangle

Why won't this work when posted - screen shot shows the preview...(turns into ??? when posted)

[pingu]

What polychords, like B triad over C triad? I write it B|C. Context (or spacing) should tell you that is not a bar line.

Still seem ambiguous to me ....
why not just use B/C ?

could you write an example please ?

[emanresu]

? ?
copied/pasted from Unicode characters table

Yep, the preview showed correctly but the forum font doesn't have that character.
edit:C?

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

Still seem ambiguous to me ....
why not just use B/C ?

could you write an example please ?

B

B/C (slash) means a B triad over a bass C note. Polychord B|C means a B triad over a C triad.

B/C: x3x422
B|C: 332442 (G C E ... B D# F#)

[pauln]

I see no mention yet of the Roman numerals where for instance you have IV as the major four chord, and you might want to indicate D/A# to mean D major over A# in the bass.

Does the note under the slash take its Roman numeral from the key or from the chord above the slash, and do those numbers abide by the diatonic note letter names of the key signature?

Is it IV/bIII (where the bIII is with reference to the root of the key chord I (G))

or IV/bVII (where the bVII is with reference to the root of the IV)

and should whichever is the correct numeral be changed and accidental(s) adjusted if the context is key of G (sharp key) to IV/#II or IV/#VI?

[cosmic gumbo]

could we all write bar lines as |

So...where do I find this character on my word processor?