Beato Book anyone?

[Durban]

@Durban - was....... a nice place to be ...

uncharted territory . yes

Write your own cadences and figure out why they work later ...lol. yes of course

know what you mean re: uncharted dont worry there are only 2 two chords eg vanilla

CM Am Dm G7 = 2 chords by CMaj i really mean Am9 or Em7 = CMaj9 no root etc etc and Dm7 - D

Gb C G (Dm11b5) is = 6 other chords etc move that Dmin on ST5 Fr5 up 3 frets now a type of G7 ish

or Fmin ish (haha) again, could be 6 other chords now you will hear exactly where it could/needs to go


Q. does Dm11b5 (half dim) no 3rd equal E7#5#9 no Root
A. Yip


Q. does this mean it is Fm6/9
A. If you want it to


Q. Are you making this up.
A. Yes........and just for that, i now hear as Ab


Q. Ab boy or girl or what?
A. both but with a leaning towards Lydian ok AbM7#11


Q. Can you still call it more names?
A. If you want to......................


just messin here trying to get away from 2 5 but its handy to sometime use as a reference prolonging tonic and V,or renaming blah blah

if i had not called Dmin Dmin but something else, likewise the G chord, one can now see how unconnected things may seem.

Its largely taste and compositional skills to assemble/build/create a progession of tune song what ever you want to call it. this interests me.

Chick Corea use these tricks/devices whatever you want to call it. Take Windows 3/4 first chord

B-7 second chord is G#m7b5 = Bm6 this type of thing can be highly ambiguous, but it also has a very strong Tonal area/region pull, plain old D

Back to the Q & A Eg AbM7#11 Lyd could be Dominant E7 of AMaj or minor

Play Bm9 AbM7#11 AM7 or Am7 etc etc Give a bossa Mambo Spin for flavour, voila new progression type thing you get the drift add chilli & garlic as needed.

[tomvwash]

The Beato “Book” (more on that in a minute) in my opinion, is only able to really help a narrow slice of players and learners. Players who are already fairly well steeped in theory (REAL theory) and learners who don’t need much context.
First - it’s not really a Book. It’s more like a self-directed manual. it has LOTS of diagrams that are all over the internet and VERY little context. DEEP subjects are shown, taking tens of pages, with in some cases only one or two sentences of context.
It’s DEEP DEEP DEEP in theory - while it might be applicable to a second year music school student, I think it will miss the mark for about 95% of other learners.
It’s THIN THIN THIN in practice suggestions or lessons (think opposite of Mel Bay books).
Ultimately, I spent the money and wished I hadn’t - not right for me, and without a preview option, like Amazon has, you have to buy at risk. Just be thoughtful about how much a self learner you are and how much you want to really really wade through theory.
Unfortunately, Rick hawks the book without explaining who it might help - and his very approachable style on his videos make people think the book will be equally approachable - it won’t.

Well put. Thank you. Im looking for a starting point in (guitar) music theory, and instead of starting a new thread, maybe someone can offer advice here--ideally a print book, with video supplements? Any suggestions appreciated.