Tunes I Claim I Know

[ragman1]

Well, it's very good, of course, but Alone Together is a slowish ballad!

[pamosmusic]

Well, it's very good, of course, but Alone Together is a slowish ballad!

Grant Green, Sonny Stitt, Sonny Rollins, also I just felt like it.

[ragman1]

I just felt like it

I know, especially after time away. But I can't really tell what you're doing, that's the trouble. I don't know whether you played the Abo or the E7, etc. It's difficult without a backing.

Grant Green and Sonny Stitt don't play it that fast but Rollins does, with ?Burrell on guitar. But what they have in common is phrases rather than a stream of 8ths. And Grant plays it more like kind of blues, pretty spaced out.

Don't get me wrong, what you did was impressive, what with the singing 'n all. I couldn't do that, not at that speed and complexity anyway.

[pamosmusic]

I know, especially after time away. But I can't really tell what you're doing, that's the trouble. I don't know whether you played the Abo or the E7, etc. It's difficult without a backing.

Well that sounds like a personal problem.

Grant Green and Sonny Stitt don't play it that fast but Rollins does, with ?Burrell on guitar. But what they have in common is phrases rather than a stream of 8ths. And Grant plays it more like kind of blues, pretty spaced out.

Yes, dear boy, I am aware that I am not as good or musical as Sonny Rollins.

Don't get me wrong, what you did was impressive, what with the singing 'n all. I couldn't do that, not at that speed and complexity anyway.

Well then perhaps a little practice is in order for our friend ragman?

[ragman1]

No one's as good as Rollins. As for singing while I play, I don't do that. Unless I'm singing, if you see what I mean

I was a singer first, you see

[bediles]

Well, it's very good, of course, but Alone Together is a slowish ballad!

Never played it as a ballad. Don't know what you're on about

[ragman1]

Oh, come on, it's practically a folk song!

[pamosmusic]

Never played it as a ballad. Don't know what you're on about

A lot of slower versions but most I would call maybe down swing. Not really ballad. Most of the time I’ve heard it live it’s closer to the Sonny Rollins tempo.

[ragman1]

Peter -

There's nothing wrong with what you did, it's very impressive as I said. It was just hard for me to follow, that's all. I mean, you must admit you were dashing about a bit.

[pamosmusic]

Peter -

There's nothing wrong with what you did, it's very impressive as I said. It was just hard for me to follow, that's all. I mean, you must admit you were dashing about a bit.

You are a patient and gracious lord.

I guess it’s constructive criticism time?

[Mick-7]

Oh, come on, it's practically a folk song!

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More like a dirge in this instance... for whom did the bell toll?

[ragman1]

You are a patient and gracious lord.

Not a lord. I've met one or two, they're a bit odd. Could be the inbreeding :-)

[pamosmusic]

So I guess that’s a no

[A. Kingstone]

I'm not sure what this thread is now but I used to claim knowing about 400 tunes. I was self-humiliated onstage in 1993 not knowing Bye Bye Blackbird well enough to transpose for a guest singer. I realised this was unacceptable. I eventually landed a quiet two night a week gig with a smooth muted trumpeter, Ron Davidson who had a book the size of the New York City telephone book. I was working a day job, doing a lot of driving and kept a fakebook on the passengers seat, humming melodies to "Two Minor - Five Seven - One - Six Seven". I soon saw the repetitiveness of the Great American Songbook. For a long time on pickup jazz gigs I never needed a book. It got to be an obsession, I would have a list of tunes (Jazz Standards Introduction: Origins, History, Theory, Musicology, Biographies, and Books) that I would recite in my head between gigs. Because I didn't keep it up most of these songs are gone but would return quickly upon necessity.

Jazz is hard on many fronts.


PS: I claimed to know the changes. Melody and solo performance is a different animal.

[bediles]

I'm not sure what this thread is now but I used to claim knowing about 400 tunes. I was self-humiliated onstage in 1993 not knowing Bye Bye Blackbird well enough to transpose for a guest singer. I realised this was unacceptable. I eventually landed a quiet two night a week gig with a smooth muted trumpeter, Ron Davidson who had a book the size of the New York City telephone book. I was working a day job, doing a lot of driving and kept a fakebook on the passengers seat, humming melodies to "Two Minor - Five Seven - One - Six Seven". I soon saw the repetitiveness of the Great American Songbook. For a long time on pickup jazz gigs I never needed a book. It got to be an obsession, I would have a list of tunes (Jazz Standards Introduction: Origins, History, Theory, Musicology, Biographies, and Books) that I would recite in my head between gigs. Because I didn't keep it up most of these songs are gone but would return quickly upon necessity.

Jazz is hard on many fronts.


PS: I claimed to know the changes. Melody and solo performance is a different animal.

When did you stop playing around Toronto? (Only jacking the thread for this question)

[ragman1]

So I guess that’s a no

Well, I'll take the gracious part. Mr. Gracious, that's me :-)

[A. Kingstone]

When did you stop playing around Toronto? (Only jacking the thread for this question)

I played the Toronto leg of Argentina's Cecilia Monte in 2012 and decided to pack it in after that.

[bediles]

I played the Toronto leg of Argentina's Cecilia Monte in 2012 and decided to pack it in after that.

Beautiful Alan! Thanks for that.

[pamosmusic]

I'm not sure what this thread is now

Well initially a thread where I was posting videos of myself tinkering with songs I used to know but that fell by the wayside.

Now Ragman has offered a masterclass.

[ragman1]

Well initially a thread where I was posting videos of myself tinkering with songs I used to know but that fell by the wayside.

No one will believe me but I was just about to ask panasonic what his next song was going to be. True.

Now Ragman has offered a masterclass

Hey, I don't get out of bed for less than $5. And some cornflakes.

[pamosmusic]

No one will believe me but I was just about to ask panasonic what his next song was going to be. True.



Hey, I don't get out of bed for less than $5. And some cornflakes.

Spend a lot of time snoozing then?

[ragman1]

Well, after my triathlon workout, yeah.

[ragman1]

Even more amazing masterclassses available

For best results don't watch

[ragman1]

So Peter, what is your next song? We need to know.

Do you take requests?

[pamosmusic]

No I do not