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Saw this at Facebook and got a chuckle from it. Thought others might too.
Scott Gwinnell - It's here- the Final Four of the Most... | Facebook
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03-31-2015 08:51 PM
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I'm guessing that one of them must be Misty.
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Give me Valentine over All Blues any day. Quite an upset.
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Yeah, "Misty" made the Final Four. (For those who live outside the US, there is something here called "March Madness," a 64-team college basketball tournament, before which millions of fans---including the President--fill out their brackets, predicting who will win the first games and then the resulting match-ups, all the down to the "Final Four, and then the National Champion. The bracket at the link above looks like a basketball bracket, only the names are of jazz standards rather than college teams.)
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
Yeah well here in Canada we play hockey where we pull sweaters over heads and start punching with impunity, even the Prime Minister…… wait…... what were we talking about?
Oh yeah, overplayed standards.
Make 'em yer own folks. There's a reason they are played so much.
Best to you Mark.
Alan
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Excellent advice! It's not the song that gets old, but how you play it. Originally Posted by A. Kingstone
They say you can follow the evolution of Coltrane by listening to all his version of My Favorite Things he played over and over. Miles Autumn Leaves and other standards he played over and over and others. Hal Galper and I forget which one I was reading an interview with talking about how they been playing the same twenty songs for decades, but try to make it fresh each time.
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Valentine and Wisconsin must be defeated!
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Valentine sucks. My funny back and forth, notes going back and forth, etc...
What was Fly Me to the Moon doing there? I love this tune;
No 'Feelings'? Maybe it wasn't old enough.
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Was just listening to an interview with one of today's greats and this one line made me think of this thread.
"yeah we were playing with Greg Osby and he plays lots of standards so there's lots of room for creativity."
I would say playing standard are tunes you know so well you can really stretch out on. A tune the audience know well enough you can push the boundaries because they have a point of reference. As well as creating a challenge of sounding fresh on classic song.
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One of the things said about Charlie Parker was that he could play his tunes with any band because they were based on changes everyone knew (blues, rhythm changes, Indiana, How High The Moon, Honeysuckle Rose and a few others). Originally Posted by docbop
Louis Armstrong, Django, Charlie Christian, Charlie Parker---they worked much of their magic over tunes / changes they had known for years, and had played over for years. There could be a lesson in that...
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Me too. The list refers to standards that are played too much---not to standards that shouldn't be. (Which is how you seem to feel about "My Funny Valentine.") Originally Posted by Stevebol
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These guys viewed the tunes as cycles of chords and they knew song by what cycle or combination of cycles it was. That is also why they could play about any song because they just had to hear enough to recognize the cycles in use. That also is how they practice was over cycles of common changes. Also different band or band leader then would play different cycles of chords to the same melodies so if you had a foundation with the common cycles, just the hear which cycles are going on. Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
You learn a good selection of Great American Songbook, and Jazz Standard you have the foundation for thousand of tune in your ear. You also develop that gut feeling on songs you don't know of what that next chord will be.
The cycles are the building blocks of tunes.
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I agree that's it's worthwhile to learn lots of these tunes for their own sake and for the harmonic and melodic language they provide. And I have and will continue to devote lots of time to this project.
Having said that, in my neck of the woods, "Autumn Leaves" seems to get a bit more attention than any tune perhaps deserves. So that tune would get my vote.
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Originally Posted by MattC
For me Misty is a tunes that has always turned me off don't know why just never liked it.
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Who decided if something is played too much? It's a list of the most played standards. He's saying that all these songs are played too much. Isn't that just his opinion? I think he might not like standards or college basketball. I thought that was pretty funny. Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
I could care less if Wisconsin advances in the Final Four. I dropped out of there and went to community college. I hope they lose tonight.
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It's Johnny Mathis, isn't it? Originally Posted by docbop
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Doesn't matter for me I just don't like the tune no matter who's doing it instrumental or vocal. I've only play it a couple times so happy about that. Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
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Listen to Sarah Vaughn in her prime sing Misty and tell me it's old hat! She was kind of hot when she was young....
My favorite versions are Errol Garner's at the piano.
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Originally Posted by targuit
Luckily we all like more tune than we dislike. Some of the ones mentioned by others they don't like are tunes I love. That's why there are so many tunes we all can find our own collection of faves.
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