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    Here is an admittedly stupid request/question. But here goes anyway…is there a lead sheet for the song autumn Leaves in the key of Gm that just looks like the version (Em) that is in the infamous Real Book? You know same handwriting and visual asthetic.

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    Autumn Leaves in Gm-img_3511-png

    You mean this? I call it Bb because key sig.
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    Two flats can be either Bb or Gm. AL is usually called a minor tune. Each section ends on the minor V-i.

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    I’m influenced by my recents efforts to improve my sad reading - it is getting a little better.

    So does calling it Gm make it modal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiq

    So does calling it Gm make it modal?
    No, it just means it's in the key of G minor. G minor is a key, not a mode.

    The usual music we play is either in a major or a minor key. Each key has a series of chords and we play over those chords. And jazz music frequently changes keys during the tune.

    Modal music is different. It usually has a number of chords that often don't have any particular relationship to each other. A lot of Wayne Shorter's tunes are like that.

    It's sometimes possible to play in one key with one scale, although seldom done because it would be a bit dull, but in modal music there's no key so each chord has to be played in and for itself. That's where the modes come in.

    I'm afraid this is too complex a subject to go into here. You'd need to google it and try to find out that way, if you're interested.

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    I understand those points, I’m just not above attempting low humor which is why I included the devilish emoji.

    Sorry for muddying the waters.

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    I think your concept of low humour is somewhat different to mine


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    ... and then there's modal humour

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    I’ll show myself out.

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    Autumn Leaves is an ice-breaker tune for jazz jam sessions here in Japan, and it’s usually done in Gm / Bb. In that key, the sheet from the Jazz Standard Bible (like a Japanese Real Book) has an Eb7 in the last phrase, which encourages using a Db in ad-lib, imparting a kind of bluesy vibe.

    Sometimes, such as when there are international players in town (who usually know it in Em / G), or vocalists in their keys, it may need a bit of clarification before counting in. But for open jams generally it’s done in Gm here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzPadd
    Autumn Leaves is an ice-breaker tune for jazz jam sessions here in Japan, and it’s usually done in Gm / Bb. In that key, the sheet from the Jazz Standard Bible (like a Japanese Real Book) has an Eb7 in the last phrase, which encourages using a Db in ad-lib, imparting a kind of bluesy vibe.

    Sometimes, such as when there are international players in town (who usually know it in Em / G), or vocalists in their keys, it may need a bit of clarification before counting in. But for open jams generally it’s done in Gm here.
    It does have a slightly different quality but I always assumed it was for the benefit of Bb instruments. Could be wrong.