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I don't buy recorded music these days online. The choices are many and with time commitments and person play I simply play tunes and recordings on youtube. The problem is the ads have gotten completely out of control. They are either a fake gadget that can do something science has not yet found, or they are gross things that I don't want anything to do with them.
I understand you can pay for $14 a month a youtube premium fee that is completely add free. That seems to me that it might be worth the money. I listen to things all the time and even play along with much of the stuff. Anyone here do this?
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06-30-2025 03:18 PM
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I do it.
It's very good but not perfect. On the YouTube music app there are mistakes. Today I started listening to the Charlie Parker compilation album Boss Bird only to discover that it had been uploaded wrong so it wasn't 'Donna Lee' I was listening to but one of the tunes at the end of the previous disk (I have it on CD). So that's slightly irritating. Otherwise, of course, great resource.
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I do. YouTube Premium includes YouTube Music.
Originally Posted by deacon Mark
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Yes, I use youtube premium. I'm a fan, and I recommend it. I need to be able to click around without ads every minute. Yes, for entertainment. But also for music, and some educational purposes too. I don't pay for tv because I can't deal with the commercials. And I also don't really like the content anymore. So this is the way to go for me. It's cheaper for a yearly subscription too.
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Here's proof - Originally Posted by James W
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Typically, when I am cooking or doing some inside type workout I listen to youtube but now it has gone way over the top. I cannot believe they can even be allowed to show these ads. Some are about bodily functions that best be left you and your doctor. I may breakdown and give it a try, but I am tightwad we all know for some things. I personally do not own and TV or have watch TV at all in the past 25 years. Television is the most boring thing to me regardless. I do like old movies but that is another topic. The only app on my phone I pay for is Strava a cycling and running app. It is worth the small fee to get some cool things.
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I pay for a family plan, which includes my children and their spouses, my wife and me. It's part of a bundle I have which includes cloud storage, YouTube Music, and other stuff. It's worth the price to me. If I go to YouTube on a device that isn't logged in, I see the ads and they're very irritating. But that doesn't happen often, and on the devices I use daily I never see any ads at all. One should remember TANSTAAFL - there ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Google (and every other company) gives nothing away for free, you always pay some way. Watching ads and having your data sold to anyone with money is one way, or you can pay some actual money. It's a choice anyone can make.
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I think the last 25 years has been the golden age of TV,you never had so many diverse topic shows, a lot of them with cinematic quality.You have missed a lot of great storytelling,i would think your artistic nature would appreciate the art that goes into it but i can acknowledge different views and tastes. Originally Posted by deacon Mark
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Agreed, the ads have got much more frequent and much louder.
It harkens back to growing up with FM radio and Crazy Eddie.
For frequent users I imagine it’d be distracting, nearly intolerable.
But I don’t use it enough to pay the monthly fee or subscription.
Still have all the CDs, cassettes, LPs from before, and they’re OK.
I use the free tier of a streamer on my phone in the car, it’s fine.
But I’ll talk it over with the Mrs., and if she needs it we’d consider.
Perhaps a shareable family plan and such would be a way to go.
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The only real need for a family plan is to give each member their own account, so the views of all don't get mixed up together. My wife and I have different tastes in viewing, as do the grandchildren. I don't have to see the kiddie stuff, nor my wife or children's views. If that's not a concern, the login info can be shared between multiple people.
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On the PC I use the Mozilla browser and the Ublock origin addon and have never seen a single ad on Youtube. On the phone (android) i disable the youtube app and use the Opera browser to watch videos. It has a built in add blocker so again no ads. I have maybe watched 10 hours of TV in the last 30 years, so the concept of commercials is completely foreign to me, if i had to watch commercials i wouldn''t use Youtube.
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YouTube is not about the content. YouTube is about the ads. The content is just the bait. That's their business model.
I use a browser set to private browsing, so all cookies and trackers that are set are deleted as soon as the browser is closed. I use an ad blocker that effectively blocks the ads from playing, but does leave me with periods of silence and a black screen while the ad runs without my seeing it, often followed by another ad that I have to tap a button to dismiss.
I wouldn't mind if the ads were just ads, but they aren't. They are cyber stalkers and I do everything I can to prevent being profiled, stalked, fingerprinted, etc. by these bastards.
By the way, if you own a smart TV then your TV watching data is being collected, profiled, collated and sold to whoever wants to pay the manufacturer for it. That's why modern flatscreen smart TVs are so cheap: the manufacturers' primary revenue comes from the ongoing mining of data about you to target advertising to you. I don't own a smart TV and I never will. If/when this TV goes belly up, I'll live without one.
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For the last few years I've been wondering when youtube was going to figure out a way to charge for their services and here we are. I may be wrong but have a feeling sooner or later we'll have to pay just to watch at all, ads or not, like cable tv.
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Use ad-blockers like Ublock Origin, no need to pay for Youtube...
As for mobile devices, at least on Android if u use Firefox or Duckduckgo browsers to access YT u can install the same ad-blockers and enjoy ad-free experience for free!
Duckduckgo also has a system wide plugin for Android devices that blocks trackers from all apps installed.
But again, DO NOT pay for Youtube ... it's silly...
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^ I didn't know there were adblockers that block the trackers so you can use them on youtube. Gonna try it.
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Ok, so there are 2 things here. Originally Posted by Strat-itis
1 - ad-blocks stop interruptions (ads) from happening on streaming sites like YT or Twitch.
2 - trackers are like digital spies that do what is says on the tin. So for example, you search for a set of guitar strings and then when you go to YT for example, you will see adds for strings because those trackers will tell YT what you were looking for.
Usually ad-blockers also stop most of the trackers from spying on you, but originally their purpose was to block ads. It always freaks me out how different websites look when I try to browse the net and use a device that doesnt use any sort of protection...
On a mobile device like a phone or tablet, the trackers also share info between the various apps you use. So for example you look at something using Google Chrome, then you use another app and that will most probably serve you ads based on what you looked at in the browser.
Duckduckgo Android browser installs a system-wide plugin that prevents this from happening and prevents apps from sending the tracking data back to overlords.
You can have a smart-TV and not connect it to the internet, and instead use a media PC connected to the TV and configured to your liking for that part of the functionality. But yeah smart TVs are straight out of 1984... I honestly don't get it how people accepted this so blindly Originally Posted by Cunamara
Last edited by jazzloverfat; 07-01-2025 at 04:43 AM.
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Originally Posted by Alter
Thx a lot for the tip. I installed Firefox and Ublock Origin and sure enough no ads. And no youtube telling me to disable my adblocker or go premium. Bye bye youtube premium. Do this deacon Mark. Originally Posted by jazzloverfat
Originally Posted by Alter
Will also check out the phone workarounds. I might not need to tho as I try to not scroll around on my phone when I'm in public and have triggerish toxic crap going to pollute my mindset worse than society already does baha. Originally Posted by jazzloverfat
Agree. TV sux bad. I stopped watching TV about a decade ago. My smart TV has free channels so I watch it occasionally and try to mute the commercials. I bought some youtube tv to watch sports playoffs and the commercials are so triggerish and annoying with the volume twice as loud as the programs. It reminds me why I can't stand tv and paying for it seems ridiculous. I can't stand the triggerish programs either. I only like watching old stuff. So yeah no. Originally Posted by Alter
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A friend uses Brave browser and says that it is fine enough to avoid the ads.
I use premium, a friend got the family plan and we share the price - 7.- per nose at the moment.
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Premium is certainly worth it to me. But I watch a LOT of YT, so it's like a streaming subscription. Originally Posted by deacon Mark
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Besides which, some of this ad revenue or subscriptions money ends up with the creators, like me.
I suppose people always want a free ride, one thing I've learned from years of playing music lol.
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DuckDuckGo Browser plays YouTube videos without any of the YouTube nonsense. Or any Influenzas.
Just search for videos, using their secure DuckDuckGo browser.
Download the DuckDuckGo Browser for Windows
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i don't mind ads that say cover a part of the screen or coexist in a window etc, i usually whitelist sites that i enjoy and are generally safe like forums. But Youtube ads i find too much and too intrusive. And for general browsing it's safer to block as much stuff as you can, not only ads. For example i have another addon that blocks all cookies and their dialogs, so i can browse without the constant consent distractions, sorry advertisement companies not interested.
Another good solution for privacy and safety is a good VPN something like NordVPN that gives you a lot but has a sub.
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That is the unfortunate side-effect, tho so many if not most YT channels are sponsored and then there is Patreon and similar services, which have a much better deal than YT will ever have. Ad revenue is not unlike what artists get from Spotify, ok, maybe a wee bit better but it's still peanuts compared to how much Google et.al. make. Originally Posted by Christian Miller
Also one can white-list certain addresses in ad-blockers if they are so inclined.
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Just a point of information from the other side of this, setting aside concerns about data tracking etc
If the YouTube Studio analytics are to be trusted, the ad revenue has around a 50/50 to 60/40 split for most of my videos between me and the platform. I also receive income from YouTube Premium viewers.
I don't received much income from this, BTW. I had a successful video by my standards that earned about £30 for 13.5K views. OTOH apparently advertisers paid about £80.
Jazz guitar YouTubers aren't in this for the money lol. If I was economically rational about this I should be spending my time chasing gigs haha. I think there's a perception that YouTubers are lazy grifters raking in the money. This is not true.
Small and Medium sized channels don't make much income from ad revenue (we mostly do it by Patreon/Ko-Fi etc). But it is a useful amount of 'pocket money' monthly. Helps pay for my daughter's piano lessons for example. YouTube is certainly not a job and I wouldn't want it to be for a great many reasons.
Do with that info what you will.
This is complex, and I don't want to come across like I'm supporting YouTube's practices uncritically.
Is this a fair cut? How much are YouTubes expenses? Small fry like me are less important by a great factor than the Mr Beasts or even the Rich Beatos, so annually the YouTube advertising revenue cut has to be a great deal of money given how much content there is.
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