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I am wondering about what aspects of rhythm study cross genres.
For instance, I have always been an admirer of some of the rhythm chops of funk guitarist like Curtis Mayfield and others.
I've also always maintained that one of the most unique aspects of Hendrix's playing was his rhythmic command both when soloing and playing rhythm guitar and that has background as a sideman had a big influence on his style.
In fact, when I look at Hendrix's peers in rock, the biggest gap I see is how far behind they are in terms of feel compared to Jimi, even professed blues lovers like SRV and Clapton.
Personally, I think there is some underlying thread and connection with Jazz feel but maybe reaching.
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11-14-2025 01:20 PM
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There are lots of syncopated rhythms in funk that would cross over, but the feel is generally very straight 16th notes compared to jazz's commonly swung 8th feel. If you were looking for unique inspiration for rhythms, you'll find it in jazz but with the idiomatic feel.
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If I had to guess Jimi was influenced by Charlie Christian but I have no support, evidence, or even anecdote to support it
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Kenny Burrell was a direct influence on Jimi. Probably Wes too.
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Jimi totally listened as much as he played coming up. Got on the circuit as soon as he could and soaked up whatever he could like a sponge. He was always reaching and always learning.
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You have to be more specific? What era of Jazz?
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I love Jimi’s Curtis Mayfield
inspired comping style on ballads
Wind cries Mary
Axis bold as love
Castles made of sand
Little Wing etc
All those chord moves and
ideas are great for playing
all styles
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I think it's telling how much swung 16ths have pervaded funk and other popular genres in the decades since Jimi Hendrix died. I would attribute that to the rise of hip-hop and especially New Jack Swing.
Originally Posted by joe2758
I think it's fair to say that a player like Cory Wong couldn't have existed without Jimi Hendrix before him...but also that Jimi Hendrix probably couldn't comprehend where Cory Wong was coming from, because of all that happened in the intervening decades.
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Kenny Burrell also influenced SRV. SRV heard a lot of Western Swing music at home as a kid. (Musicians came to his mom and dad's home.) He loved Hendrix, Django, Wes, Grant Green, Kenny Burrell, T-Bone Walker, Guitar Slim. But Hendrix was "No. 1" in terms of influences. Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Alot of takes on Hendrix..context is a must..
Bringing a tiger to a dog show..in a world of solids he's liquid..
remember..1967 (Monterey Pop) was his intro to the US..electric guitar was just beginning to be
the main rock flavor..at a very fast evolutionary pace..Hendrix turbo-charged it to several steps beyond the possible
The term in theory.."avoid note" was now the "go to" note: distorted-bent-twisted-fed back-digested and regurgitated
Play a cycle of fifths and throw in rhythmic variations that your ear wants more of..haaay joe..good-bye everybody..
He played it with ease..making the sounds far removed from watching his fingers move on a wood block that seemed unnecessary at times.
today..it would not even get a second glance..
walk on water?..pffft..David Blaine made an elephant disappear..
jaded..perhaps
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As good as Stevie is, I don't think he gets close to Kenny's feel. Originally Posted by AllanAllen
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London apartment (left as was) after his death.
I recognized Freak Out (Zappa).
Some will know the less obvious only partially showing.
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The place is called Handel-Hendrix, the whole floor all a museum now.
Here is more of his collection...
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Some jazz albums up there, Wes' "A Day in the Life", Django, and apparently a Wes and Jimmy Smith album. Originally Posted by pauln
The place is called Handel-Hendrix, the whole floor all a museum now.
Here is more of his collection...
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Stuffed puppy chilling by the window for 50 years ftw
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The objects in the flat were 'assembled to look how they would have looked when Jimi lived there,' in 2016.
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A German project crew was allowed in originally to photograph and document everything. I looked for the web site I saw about it. Was trying to find it for their original pictures. Everyone anticipated the place becoming an exhibit and capturing the details would be important. Certainly everything would have to be restored and placed. If I recall they noted that the record on the turntable is Muddy Waters. Originally Posted by Litterick
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Jimi was the undisputed master of rhythmic misdirection. By that I mean to say he would emphasize the upbeats and offbeats to make them sound like downbeats. For example, the intros to Remember and Watchtower, as well as the infamous trainwreck in the middle of Message of Love.
It's beyond question that Jimi was heavily influenced by Curtis Mayfield. In his own words: "The best gig was working with Curtis Mayfield and the Impressions. He was a Really good guitarist!...... I learned quite a lot in that short time. He probably influenced me more than anyone I'd ever played with up to that time, that sweet sound of his, you know".
Jimi's later work, released posthumously, showed his rhythmic evolution towards funkier 16th note grooves, such as Freedom. As far as "jazz feeling" one need only listen to Jimi's beautiful octave playing in Third Stone from the Sun. Wonder where he got that from? And let's not forget Mitch Mitchell: "Among drummers, his chief influences were Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, Max Roach, Philly Joe Jones, and Joe Morello." So, from jump street, Jimi incorporated "jazz feeling."
Somebody up the reply chain mentioned that "Jimi Hendrix probably couldn't comprehend where Cory Wong was coming from" which simply beggars belief. Let's remember that some dude named Miles Davis (???) said: "Jimi Hendrix and I got to be friends. He used to come by the house...He wasn’t a schooled musician, but he could play. I used to show him stuff. I like the way he played. He played natural. Like Sly Stone. They were both bad motherfuckers.” I'll leave it up to your imagination whether Jimi could've picked up enough from this Davis dude to "comprehend where Cory Wong was coming from."
BTW, and as if it matters, I played in a Hendrix group thirty years ago. I can say with limited authority but some "Experience" (get it?) that nobody could ever play the totality of Jimi Hendrix. This includes Randy Hansen (shared a stage with him in the '80s) Frank Marino, Eric Johnson, Robin Trower, SRV etc ad infinitum. Even if someone played all the notes exactly the same, nobody could ever capture the vibe and intensity of Jimi Hendrix. That's why we're still talking about him 55 years after his death.
(My take on Jimi FWIW)Last edited by buduranus2; 11-17-2025 at 09:17 PM.
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From The Independent Originally Posted by pauln
At first glance, the turquoise velvet curtains (originally purchased from John Lewis on nearby Oxford Street), red Persian rugs, Bohemian nicknacks and piles of vintage vinyl appear to be the actual artifacts, but almost all of the items in the room are replicas. Hendrix requested that most of his possessions be destroyed after the couple had separated for good later in 1969.
Thanks to Etchingham’s involvement and enough old photos to go by, replacement items were acquired through memorabilia auctions while others, like the pink-and-orange striped bedspread, were remade to match the originals.
“She was able to recollect an incredible amount of colours and textures that the black and white photographs couldn’t give us; gradually the room was restored back to its former glory,” Claire Davies, the museum’s deputy director, says. “She also had so many stories about Jimi’s brief moment of domesticity with her in the flat that helped to shape our narrative.”
Elsewhere in the exhibit, visitors can sift through a recreation of Hendrix’s record collection, mainly a mix of blues (Muddy Waters, Howlin’ Wolf) and rock (the Beatles, Bob Dylan and Cream).
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Dayyum! I thought I was listening to Jimi playing live. Bud ur not anus. Originally Posted by buduranus2
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Ahh..thanks for the post. Originally Posted by buduranus2
Impressive take. Alot of dedication and work into getting some of Jimi essence in your playing.
I often think of all the players who stood in front of a mirror trying to get a fraction of his stage moves in their playing.
In this case though..my yellow is not so mellow..its just better to just admire and enjoy.
A very talented Stanley Jordan..did a few "Jimi" stage shows..to me it was a failed attempt..to the point I wanted to tell him..Please..stop.
In retrospect..as mentioned..the tsunami effect of Hendrix playing is still reverberating on new players..realized or not.
Yeah..what would he be into today...Ahhh
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That's a very faithful tribute, thanks! Originally Posted by buduranus2
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Thank you Charlie. I had excellent musicians with me. One night (not this show) I looked over and our bassist was playing the bass one-handed and behind his head (!?!?!?!?!?) Still haven't figured that one out. Originally Posted by charlieparker
Man, you just hit it out of the park. As I mentioned in my earlier post, nobody can play the totality of Jimi's music. My goal was to bring Jimi's psychedelic intensity to my playing, as well as capturing the signature licks. I remember that night quite clearly. The music was coming through me. Originally Posted by wolflen
Thanks for the nice compliment. Playing Jimi's music was like sneaking dad's car out for a joyride when I was 12. I knew it was wrong but it was too much fun! Originally Posted by Danil
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Thread Drift: Coincidentally, at a gig this past Saturday night the bandleader handed out a chart for "Chitlins Con Carne" that had the bassline from Kenny Burrell's version notated at the top, and then, as an addendum, the bassline from SRV's version notated at the bottom. Originally Posted by AllanAllen
Somewhere in the middle of the tune I switched from the Burrell feel to the SRV feel, and everyone in the band looked around and we all collectively shook our heads. "Nah, Kenny got it right."
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