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    Aebersold/Band in the Box Killer is here.

    Logic Pro 11.2 System Update and Stem-Splitter—Logic Studio Pro just got a massive update and you can take any finished recorded track and have it automatically split into vocals-guitar-bass-piano-other. Great for creating practice tracks, singing or playing over isolated parts.

    **yes, of course, 99.9999% of the world has no idea what or who “Jamey Aebersold* is. While “Professional Beats Makers” call this the end of the need for a drum machine, for our purposes—there is never an easier way now to jam along to Philly Joe and PC.

    ADDED Benefit for those who ripped their entire CD collection into a hard drive sometime during the Oughts, only to see it collect dust as we enter the streaming era. You easily import any audio track and isolate whatever you want from it (e.g, the rhythm section).

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    So how does it do getting rid of sax or guitar? I used Moises to play with various rhythm sections that were supporting sax. Worked well sometimes, but sometimes not so well.

    Also, sometimes it'd get confused and eliminated bass when I was trying to lose the piano to practice comping.

    I imagine these stem splitting softwares keep improving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccroft
    So how does it do getting rid of sax or guitar? I used Moises to play with various rhythm sections that were supporting sax. Worked well sometimes, but sometimes not so well.

    Also, sometimes it'd get confused and eliminated bass when I was trying to lose the piano to practice comping.

    I imagine these stem splitting softwares keep improving.

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    That’s impressive. Could a great tool to pull guitars out to better hear notes when learning tunes.

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    These stem separators are
    incredible to me ….

    This one is super convenient
    in Logic

    I’m guessing that all the major
    DAWs will be implementing a version
    of a stem separator now

    I worked in Audio (up to a few years
    ago)and I wouldn’t have believed
    this was even possible
    let alone implemented so well

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    I could see switching to Logic for this. It's not expensive and has lifetime updates, instead of the ubiquitous subscription model. I got plenty of little chickens wetting their beaks in my wallet already.

    The online ones were slow when I was doing it, and then you do the mix online, and then import an un-editable mp3 or whatever. Looks like some of that has changed by now, but this looks like a much better workflow.

    I looked at reviews, including the one posted by Navdeep. What I found are all about working with pop/rock/etc. I'd like to know what happens when you use it on something like Inner Urge or Iris to get those dang winds out the way :)

    I guess they get stemmed as 'Other'. I guess, for EG, Miles and Wayne end up on the same track? Which would probably be fine for a band-in-the-box type thing.

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    So, you don’t even need an external hard drive with saved files to import into logic. You can just connect you iPhone, via USB-C, to your Mac, configure things accordingly in settings, and use any song you can play on your phone (through the Music App, for example) as an AUDIO track in Logic. Easy-peasy.

    So, basically, the entire streamable music library can be available for use,to create new audio tracks and break down the constituent separate instrumental parts (Voice-guitar-piano-drums-bass-other)

    Here’s how to do it:


    1. Connect iPhone to Mac
    - Plug your iPhone into your Mac using a USB cable.
    - Unlock your iPhone and tap **"Trust"** when prompted to trust the computer.


    2. Configure iPhone as an Audio Device
    - Open **Audio MIDI Setup** on your Mac (Go to `Applications > Utilities > Audio MIDI Setup`).
    - In the sidebar, under **Devices**, you should see your iPhone listed. Select it.
    - In the right panel, configure settings:
    - **Format**: 44.1 kHz or 48 kHz (match your Logic project’s sample rate).
    - **Channels**: 2 (Stereo).


    3. Set Up Logic Pro
    - Open your Logic project.
    - Create a new **Audio Track**:
    `Track > New Audio Track` (or press `??N`).
    - In the new track’s **Input** slot (top of the channel strip), select:
    ```
    Input > Your iPhone's Name > Stereo (Ch 1-2)
    ```
    - Arm the track for recording (click the **Record Enable** button ?).


    4. Play Audio on iPhone
    - Open the Music/Apple Music app on your iPhone and play the song/audio.
    - Ensure iPhone volume is at **~75%** to avoid clipping.


    5. Record in Logic
    - Press **Record** (?) in Logic’s transport bar.
    - The audio will stream from your iPhone to Logic in real-time.
    - Press **Stop** when finished.

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    Great if you own a Mac but PC users outnumber Mac users by more than ten to one,so i think Aebersold/Band in a box will be ok and still be getting a lot of use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyc chaz
    Great if you own a Mac but PC users outnumber Mac users by more than ten to one,so i think Aebersold/Band in a box will be ok and still be getting a lot of use.
    Generally yes, but not among creatives. Musicians and artists are a bit more mac oriented than say, accountants, engineers, or gamers.

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    Important point: Logic 11.2 running on an Intel-based Mac will NOT support stem-splitting. Only Macs running Logic 11.2 on Apple silicon will offer stem splitting. Ask me how I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Generally yes, but not among creatives. Musicians and artists are a bit more mac oriented than say, accountants, engineers, or gamers.
    If you are talking about people making orchestral music on computer then a Mac might have a slight edge in use but nowhere like it used to be years ago..Guys i know that just use computers mostly for recording guitar based music in a Daw is about 60 percent PC.The whole Mac thing is better has kind of gone by the wayside with the fact that you can custom build a PC for music making at half the price of a Mac.

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    most daws support plugins that do stem separation. For example, the video program I use (davinci resolve) added that feature last year. I use Reaper and love it. There are plugins that do stem separation. i personally wouldn't choose a daw based on that feature. Reaper doesn't support stem separation natively but I can do it through izotope or any number of other plugins.

    All stem separation software is imperfect.