Hard Bop Guitarists?

[Irish16hockey]

I’ve been listening to lots of Coltrane, Mingus, etc. I love the manic intensity of their pieces!

I was wondering if anyone could recommend me any guitarists with that same feel and really intensity.

I find most lead jazz guitarists as overly clean and polished, something I’ve never enjoyed much.

[teeps]

Tal Farlow, John McLaughlin ?

[djg]

Tal Farlow, John McLaughlin ?

noooooooo

[jameslovestal]

I’ve been listening to lots of Coltrane, Mingus, etc. I love the manic intensity of their pieces!

I was wondering if anyone could recommend me any guitarists with that same feel and really intensity.

I find most lead jazz guitarists as overly clean and polished, something I’ve never enjoyed much.

Here is Dexter Gordon with Philip Catherine.

[takefive]

Wes, Joe Pass, Billy Bauer?

[mr. beaumont]

Hard bop? Wes, Grant Green, Early Benson...

[christianm77]

Tal Farlow, John McLaughlin ?

lol

[christianm77]

GRANT GREEN

(also there was a guy called Wes something?)

[christianm77]

Might not be what you had in mind but it flipping slaps

[djg]

grant green
wes montgomery
eddie mcfadden
roland prince
vinnie corrao
paul weeden
rene thomas
george benson
jimmy ponder
nathen page
ted dunbar
doug raney
melvin sparks
richie hart
mark elf
eric gale
pete bernstein
sonny greenwich
ronald muldrow
henry johnson
quentin warren
thornel schwartz
phil upchurch
howard roberts
joe diorio
ray crawford
billy butler
billy bean
wim overgaauw
pat martino
rodney jones
bobby broom
grant green jr
louis stewart
helmut kagerer
karl ratzer
jim mullen
clint strong

and i missed probably just as many

[MarkRhodes]

Been listening to this a lot lately

[MarkRhodes]

Kenny Burrell fit in the hard bop camp when he wanted to.

[lawson-stone]

I still never have figured out exactly what "hard bop" is.

Any trait-lists, definitions, etc. out there?

[christianm77]

Hard bop is like bop but harder

[grahambop]

I still never have figured out exactly what "hard bop" is.

Any trait-lists, definitions, etc. out there?

Horace Silver and Art Blakey were prime exponents.

Wikipedia has a reasonable stab at describing it:
Hard bop - Wikipedia

[Drumbler]

Jimmy Bruno

[mr. beaumont]

I still never have figured out exactly what "hard bop" is.

Any trait-lists, definitions, etc. out there?

Grew out of bebop, not as much of an emphasis on speed (but can still burn) more blues/r&b inflected, somewhat simpler, singable heads, art blakey is probably involved. Almost anything on blue note from like 1957 to 1962-3.

So you know, all the best music ever created

The older guys I knew coming up just called it bop. "Bebop" was a very specific time and place to them. You can't play "bebop" anymore. It's over. But bop lives on. Or something.

[jameslovestal]

Hard bop? Wes, Grant Green, Early Benson...

What is throwing me off is the comment of "overly clean and polished".

Ok, "overly" can be interpreted many ways, but as for "clean and polish", I can't figure out how that relates to playing in a hard bop style.

This is why I posted that Philip Catherine track with Dexter Gordon since Philip uses effects.

[MarkRhodes]

Grew out of bebop, not as much of an emphasis on speed (but can still burn) more blues/r&b inflected, somewhat simpler, singable heads, art blakey is probably involved. Almost anything on blue note from like 1957 to 1962-3.

Gospel influence too. Soul-jazz was an outgrowth of this.

This Horace Silver tune is a good example---not as angular as bebop tended to be and there was an emphasis on playing solos one need not be a player to appreciate. ;o)

[grahambop]

Early Pat Martino stuff can get quite intense:

[mr. beaumont]

Early Pat Martino stuff can get quite intense:

Man, I love all the accents. He's playing HARD.

[gionnio]

Most of what's been categorized as hard bop doesn't include a guitar player.

I like to think of this as an opportunity...

[grahambop]

One of the archetypal hard bop tracks is Moanin’ (by Bobby Timmons):

[grahambop]

As already mentioned, Wes Montgomery could bop hard:

[djg]

Early Pat Martino stuff can get quite intense:

pat at 17