Ed Bickert - A Jazz Guitarist You Need To Know About!

**wintermoon** · 10-16-2018, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by jaco

Ed was the Canadian version of Jim Hall, understated, inventive, beautiful harmonic sense...but with a Tele, I always liked that about Ed. and Ted Greene, and Julian Lage, and ....well you get the idea.

Yeah, back in the day when I first heard him w Paul's band the first thing I thought was wow, he sounds like Jim Hall.
Kinda makes sense as they're borh "cerebral-economical players" But when you really dig into them you can hear they're their own..

**grahambop** · 10-16-2018, 02:58 AM

This guy shows how to play some Ed Bickert solos, he’s done a whole series of these:

**sgcim** · 10-16-2018, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by grahambop

This guy shows how to play some Ed Bickert solos, he’s done a whole series of these:

In the comments section, Pedro claims that Ed used round wound 11s, even though Pedro is using .012 Flats.

**whiskey02** · 10-16-2018, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Skip Ellis

Has anyone ever heard mentioned the type strings Ed used - rounds, flats, gauge?

fwiw, He hated Fender amps! I've read Ed quoted when asked about his amp preference, "anything but a Fender".

**coolvinny** · 10-16-2018, 01:15 PM

I once read an anecdote about Ed Bickert that he would not take a solo on a tune if he couldn't play the melody (as opposed to sort-of-knowing-the-melody from hearing it etc.). When I read that a few years ago I thought it was really heavy...now that I have more experience it is less heavy, but still interesting.

**neatomic** · 10-16-2018, 03:48 PM

there's another radio broadcast recording of bickert with desmond floating around...edmonton '76

that's in addition to pure desmond and the paul desmond quartet live...desmond passed soon after

cheers

**DRS** · 10-17-2018, 10:01 AM

Another player that I believe was understated but incredibly deep and versed like Bickert was Mundell Lowe.

**Naquat** · 11-15-2018, 11:48 AM

At around 3:40 this guy says he's playing a Bb7 but it looks like a Bb6 to me?

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**JensL** · 11-15-2018, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Naquat

At around 3:40 this guy says he's playing a Bb7 but it looks like a Bb6 to me?

Look again, there is an Ab in that voicing

Jens

**BigDaddyLoveHandles** · 11-15-2018, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by JensL

Look again, there is an Ab in that voicing

Jens

Yes, he's playing xx678x, so it's Bb13 really. Maybe he meant Bb7 as shorthand for "Bb dominant".

**JensL** · 11-15-2018, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles

Yes, he's playing xx678x, so it's Bb13 really. Maybe he meant Bb7 as shorthand for "Bb dominant".

Indeed, I never write out the extensions, that's often not useful anyway.

Jens

**BigDaddyLoveHandles** · 11-15-2018, 01:15 PM

^^^ I haven't been paying attention enough attention to this thread! You are Jens of the videos! I dig 'em. Named my Tele "Ed" after Bickert, too.

**JensL** · 11-15-2018, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles

^^^ I haven't been paying attention enough attention to this thread! You are Jens of the videos! I dig 'em. Named my Tele "Ed" after Bickert, too.

Thanks! I can imagine why you would name it Ed!

Jens

**Naquat** · 11-15-2018, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles

Yes, he's playing xx678x, so it's Bb13 really. Maybe he meant Bb7 as shorthand for "Bb dominant".

OK, so if one plays it as a barre chord I see it called a 6th, and if played on the 6, 4, 3, 2 strings a 13th in a triad like that what determines if it's called a 13th or a 6th and does it matter?

**BigDaddyLoveHandles** · 11-15-2018, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Naquat

OK, so if one plays it as a barre chord I see it called a 6th, and if played on the 6, 4, 3, 2 strings a 13th in a triad like that what determines if it's called a 13th or a 6th and does it matter?

xx678x is Ab D G, the b7th, 3rd and 6th of Bb. When you play the 6th and b7th of a chord you can call it:

Bb13
or
Bb7/6

(Ted Greene was fond of the second notation.)

Bb6 is a root, third, fifth and sixth, but not seventh. And of course one doesn't need to play every note, especially on guitar.

Bb13 is a root, third, fifth, seventh, ninth, (usually not eleventh) and thirteenth. And of course one doesn't need to play every note, especially on guitar.

The "shell" 13th chord with the minimal notes for a thirteenth flavour is third/sixth=thirteenth/seventh.

**JensL** · 11-15-2018, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Naquat

OK, so if one plays it as a barre chord I see it called a 6th, and if played on the 6, 4, 3, 2 strings a 13th in a triad like that what determines if it's called a 13th or a 6th and does it matter?

It is a 13th because there is also an Ab (the b7) and that makes the other note a 13th and not a 6th. So it is not just a triad with an added 6th it is a dominant with a 13th.

Jens