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Originally Posted by whiskey02
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04-03-2018 05:17 PM
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I saw Chet twice at Ronnie Scott’s. The first time he was great, he just walked on, the audience instantly went quiet, he sat under a spotlight with a lit cigarette between his fingers, and started playing. The cigarette smoke curled up into the spotlight beam and he played superbly, it was like being in a 50’s movie or something, he had that sort of charisma. But above all he played and sounded great.
The second time a couple of years later, he was terrible! Totally out of it, tried to sing (not very well), could barely get a note out of the trumpet, almost fell off his stool. It was awful.
Thank heavens I saw him the first time at his best!
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The movie was ok. Just thought that the acting was a bit of a caricature of Chet.
There was a quality to his playing that I haven’t heard elsewhere. I can’t describe what it is but it always pulled me in. It does sort of feel like a reaching and not quite getting there like in a sense of yearning. Billie Holiday ish?
He certainly wasn’t the only jazz player of his time to be hooked on drugs.
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By the way I have learned a lot from listening to Chet intensively and transcribing a few of his solos. It’s all about melodic phrasing, space between the notes, getting a long line out of a very small range of notes, weaving a great line through the melody and chords, exact time placement of one note starting a phrase, and all sorts of other things. Also he is a lot easier to follow than someone like Charlie Parker, it’s all good.
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They say he was more of an ear guy as opposed to a technical guy. Maybe that's why he's so easy to listen and relate to.
He effectively improvises contrapuntally with Paul Desmond at 2:22 and his solo starts at 2:56 here:
Here he takes the first solo starting at 00:30:
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Chet Baker sometimes gets tagged as a Miles wannabe, maybe sometimes fairly and often not. He was more of a romantic player than Miles tended to be- there's always a little "eff you" to Miles's playing that I don't tend to hear in Chet. Chet could play nontraditional stuff very well, like on Charlie Haden's "Silence."
This is one of my favorite pieces by both Chet and Charlie.
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Chet had great phrasing and tone. When I'm studying/learning different standards tunes, I always want to hear Chet's version, and am rarely disappointed.
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Try this 1988 documentary film made by Bruce Weber ..."about the turbulent life and career of jazz trumpeter Chet Baker"
Amazingly I found this on YouTube.
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He's one of my heroes. He had an incredible sense of melody in his solos.
I highly recommend an album he made in the early eighties entitled "Chet sings again" and that probably went under the radar in the USA. It's the album I prefer from his European period. Here he is in great shape, not only "cool" when he wants but also "hot" in some tracks.
Also the album "Chet Baker sings It could happen to you" (1958) is just stellar, with Kenny Drew on piano. I can only recommend to work out his solos from this album, both on trumpet and vocals. It's pure magic.
Cheers.
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I listend quite a lot to Chet's record and I agree that he is mostly 'ear' guy even in swinging bop lines...
You know you like cannot pick exactly his licks because it's not quite the licks that he has but overall approach, mood...
(by the way sometimes I have this feeling with Miles too).
I think his late years added a bit of 'decadance' favour to his image...
I know guys who do not care for jazz but admire these late Chet's concerts where he can hardly sing or play and begins to cry (I am not sure but it seems like spontaneous tears he can't control- not because he is sad)... and all.. and they put him as a kind of jazzy Nick Cave... but to me with Nick it is an aesthetics chosen by the musician, and with Chet it's just that he is in terrible condition.
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Still dig the Carnegie Hall 2 album CTI set with Mulligan, a young John Scofield and Bob James on keys. Chet sounds a little fragile, but I dig his delicate beauty and phrasing. Always tasteful and yearning, cinematic. There’s plenty of room for that kind of listening.
And on a completely different note, did anyone catch that clip of Pete Bernstein on Facebook with Eric Alexander? I really dig Eric, regardless of his post bop sensibilities. Great phrasing, so hip. Lots of recordings with Eric and Peter, particularly on Mike Ledonnes’ albums. Makes me feel good, like listening to Chet. Some music is just supposed to make you feel, not think.
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Chet Baker was one of the most melodic improvisors that's ever lived. Great sense of time and space.
I've listened to almost everything he's recorded.
Limited? When he was at Charlie Parker's cattle-call audition in LA, the one where every trumpet player in LA was waiting to play for CP, who got the gig?
Look how long he played with Gerry Mulligan!
I'm interested in emotional content and CB was the king.
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I remember long ago I watched some late club comcert with participation of Elvis Costello... and all that really had a strange vibe...
It seemed to me more like Tom Wait's style gig... you know... not quite jazz...
And I think that was mostly because of Chet's playing singing.. (and maybe looks too)
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