Joe Puma

[sgcim]

If you do some digging you can find him on some semi obscure records like the NY Quartet stuff.
He seemed to be in a lot of bands w cats like Mat Mathews, Red and Whitey Mitchell and Herbie Mann on semi obscure labels Coral, ABC Paramount, Jubilee, Elektra etc.
Well, I'll say one thing for Herbie, he usually surrounded himself w great musicians,
and had good taste in guitar players like Puma, Chuck Wayne and my favorite of the bunch, Dick Garcia.

A lot of these records were really hard to
find back in the day and Joe's own Wild Kitten on Dawn, another obscure label, has always been a rare one, though it's recently been reissued on lp, as was DG's Dawn lp, Message from Garcia. But as w anything it's all on ebay or discogs nowadays, no more flipping through countless milk crates in record stores anymore, though I kinda miss those days....

I don't know of any Herbie Mann records with Dick Garcia or Chuck Wayne. He used Puma on a lot of records, and also Billy Bean, Atilla Zoller, Larry Coryell, Sonny Sharrock, and then some more rock oriented players.
I found a self-named Don Elliot Quintet album that has some great playing by Puma on at least one cut, if you can put up with the sound of that euphonium.
There's also a bootleg CD that was being passed around by some guys of the Puma and Chuck Wayne duo playing at a LI club. Wayne goes into a breath taking frenzy on You Stepped out of a Dream!
That Carol Sloan Live CD duo with Puma sounds tempting, but it's a Japanese import and a lot of bucks.
I found a Carol Sloan album on You Tube last night that has Bill Rubinstein on piano and Bucky on guitar. Frank Tate told me that Rubinstein sounded like Bill Evans before Bill Evans sounded like Bill Evans. He mainly did gigs in the Mountains, and was badly affected by substance abuse,
so he didn't get well known, but he's using some Evans-type voicings. I don't know how you'd find out if he did it before Evans.

[wintermoon]

I don't know of any Herbie Mann records with Dick Garcia or Chuck Wayne. He used Puma on a lot of records, and also Billy Bean, Atilla Zoller, Larry Coryell, Sonny Sharrock, and then some more rock oriented players.
I found a self-named Don Elliot Quintet album that has some great playing by Puma on at least one cut, if you can put up with the sound of that euphonium.
There's also a bootleg CD that was being passed around by some guys of the Puma and Chuck Wayne duo playing at a LI club. Wayne goes into a breath taking frenzy on You Stepped out of a Dream!
That Carol Sloan Live CD duo with Puma sounds tempting, but it's a Japanese import and a lot of bucks.
I found a Carol Sloan album on You Tube last night that has Bill Rubinstein on piano and Bucky on guitar. Frank Tate told me that Rubinstein sounded like Bill Evans before Bill Evans sounded like Bill Evans. He mainly did gigs in the Mountains, and was badly affected by substance abuse,
so he didn't get well known, but he's using some Evans-type voicings. I don't know how you'd find out if he did it before Evans.

You're right, I meant Bean like on those Mann bossa records.
I gotta stop posting in the middle of the night when I'm half asleep ?

[PMB]

That Carol Sloan Live CD duo with Puma sounds tempting, but it's a Japanese import and a lot of bucks.

I've sourced a cheap copy in England. Seller's away at the moment but if it comes through, I'll report back. It's a duo recording so it really should feature Joe Puma's playing.

I watched this great documentary on Carol the other day. It sent me searching through her discography and I found out about the duo album:

SLOANE: A JAZZ SINGER

One of Carol's first recordings was with Chuck Wayne in the same format:

[sgcim]

You're right, I meant Bean like on those Mann bossa records.
I gotta stop posting in the middle of the night when I'm half asleep ?

Agh, you Boids fans all got a screw loose or two!