Johnny Glasel "Jazz Session" feat Dick Garcia.

**pubylakeg** · 12-16-2015, 11:37 PM

Oh well, maybe youtube is good for something after all. Some good soul has uploaded a rare vinyl recording of "Jazz Session" by Johnny Glasel (trp) featuring the legendary Dick Garcia on guitar. Also featured on some tracks is the even more obscure Perry Lopez (you can see the credits on the tube window). This is seriously good stuff.

For anyone not familiar with Dick Garcia, among others he recorded with,
Joe Roland,

Lenny Hambro,

and his only album as leader
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...DO01RDUmn2qBG_

He's also on a record by Milt Buckner called "Rockin With Milt" but takes no solos. Rhythm only.

**wintermoon** · 12-17-2015, 10:16 AM

I have all those records too.
Perry Lopez plays rhythm guitar on one of Johnny Smith's 10" lps "In a Mellow Mood"
he taught @ Glassboro State college in NJ back in the 80s, no idea what happened to him since

way back in my record hunting days I'd take a chance on a record, maybe hear I sideman I liked and then proceed to hunt down every record they appeared on.
then I might hear another sideman I liked and so on....
as a result I have a lot of records

**lawson-stone** · 12-17-2015, 10:37 AM

Thanks for this link! Always fun to find another player from that era. So many who were so good, but never seemed to get the notoriety of others.

**wintermoon** · 12-17-2015, 11:25 AM

this was the record that got me into Dick Garcia.
cost me a ton of money back then but once I saw the cover I had to have it.
I think he retired from music and became a poet or something, believe he's still alive.

**pubylakeg** · 12-17-2015, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by wintermoon

..way back in my record hunting days I'd take a chance on a record, maybe hear I sideman I liked and then proceed to hunt down every record they appeared on.
then I might hear another sideman I liked and so on....
as a result I have a lot of records

My situation was very similar, armed with my copy of Maurice Summerfield's book "The Jazz Guitar. It's Evolution, History & Players" I was a pretty avid devourer of every specialist jazz record shop mailing list I could get my hands on.

Originally Posted by lawson-stone

Thanks for this link! Always fun to find another player from that era. So many who were so good, but never seemed to get the notoriety of others.

There was actually a previous thread which digressed onto the subject of Dick Garcia, if you're interested, it's here..

https://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/playe...t-tunisia.html

**sgcim** · 12-18-2015, 03:46 PM

Thanks for posting this!
I've been looking for this OOP LP for a long time, and it hasn't been re-issued on CD yet.

Some good playing by all involved, including a few interesting fugue-like arrangements with trumpet and guitar.

IMHO, DG's best playing is on the Tony Scott LP , "Two Sides of Tony Scott", where he's featured in another piano-less quartet with TS on one side of the LP, and Mundell Lowe is featured with the same on the other side.
IMHO, DG was a much better improviser than ML.

**Eddie Lang** · 12-18-2015, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by sgcim

Thanks for posting this!
I've been looking for this OOP LP for a long time, and it hasn't been re-issued on CD yet.

Some good playing by all involved, including a few interesting fugue-like arrangements with trumpet and guitar.

IMHO, DG's best playing is on the Tony Scott LP , "Two Sides of Tony Scott", where he's featured in another piano-less quartet with TS on one side of the LP, and Mundell Lowe is featured with the same on the other side.
IMHO, DG was a much better improviser than ML.

Which album have you been looking for? Message from Garcia?

**sgcim** · 12-19-2015, 01:21 PM

The one with Johnny Glasel. I have almost every LP that DG played on. I paid an arm and a leg for the "Message From Garcia" LP. Instead of that beautiful, sexy blonde in bed, my copy had a Spanish army riding up on horses.

I don't know which one was the original cover, but it had great sidemen on it- Gene Quill, A.J Sciacca (AKA Tony Scott), and it was the first small group record Bill Evans ever played on.
I copied most of Garcia's solos on it, and his ideas are part of my vocabulary.

IMHO, guys like Raney, Farlow, Garcia, Puma, and Rene Thomas, perfected the bop idiom on guitar, and I've spent my whole life tracking down every note they played, and using what I liked in my playing.

**Eddie Lang** · 12-19-2015, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by sgcim

The one with Johnny Glasel. I have almost every LP that DG played on. I paid an arm and a leg for the "Message From Garcia" LP. Instead of that beautiful, sexy blonde in bed, my copy had a Spanish army riding up on horses.

I don't know which one was the original cover, but it had great sidemen on it- Gene Quill, A.J Sciacca (AKA Tony Scott), and it was the first small group record Bill Evans ever played on.
I copied most of Garcia's solos on it, and his ideas are part of my vocabulary.

IMHO, guys like Raney, Farlow, Garcia, Puma, and Rene Thomas, perfected the bop idiom on guitar, and I've spent my whole life tracking down every note they played, and using what I liked in my playing.

Do you have or have you heard the record called "The Fourmost Guitars" (1957)? It is now reissued and marketed as a Raney album, but there is actually four tracks by Raney with a quartet, four by Garcia and Joe Puma with bass and drums, and another three tracks by Chuck Wayne with another quartet. Worth finding. (Otherwise, it can be found as The fourmost Guitars by Jimmy Raney on iTunes.)

http://www.discogs.com/Jimmy-Raney-C...elease/2801656

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/th...rs/id879663464

**pubylakeg** · 12-19-2015, 06:29 PM

The Puma/Garcia tracks are also available on the Fresh Sound compilation CD The Jazz Guitar of Joe Puma. (Highly recommended).

http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Guitar-Jo...words=joe+puma

Just as ps. on the subject of obscure jazz guitar records, has anyone here ever actually seen or heard a physical copy of the 4th String Jazz label Billy Bean release titled "Finale"?

**sgcim** · 12-19-2015, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Eddie Lang

Do you have or have you heard the record called "The Fourmost Guitars" (1957)? It is now reissued and marketed as a Raney album, but there is actually four tracks by Raney with a quartet, four by Garcia and Joe Puma with bass and drums, and another three tracks by Chuck Wayne with another quartet. Worth finding. (Otherwise, it can be found as The fourmost Guitars by Jimmy Raney on iTunes.)

http://www.discogs.com/Jimmy-Raney-C...elease/2801656

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/th...rs/id879663464

Yes, I bought it on vinyl as the Fourmost Guitars. Great LP!

**neatomic** · 12-19-2015, 08:03 PM

good stuff gents!...i love stuff like this..and am fellow hunter of obscure sidemen i like!! an always interesting adventure!

great line, sgcim- IMHO, guys like Raney, Farlow, Garcia, Puma, and Rene Thomas, perfected the bop idiom on guitar...

absolutely!..

& i'd add bill de arango...was on dizzys first recordings when he got back from los angeles '46..sans bird..who was "relaxin"...

cheers

**Eddie Lang** · 12-19-2015, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by pubylakeg

The Puma/Garcia tracks are also available on the Fresh Sound compilation CD The Jazz Guitar of Joe Puma. (Highly recommended).

Joe Puma - Jazz Guitar of Joe Puma - Amazon.com Music

Just as ps. on the subject of obscure jazz guitar records, has anyone here ever actually seen or heard a physical copy of the 4th String Jazz label Billy Bean release titled "Finale"?

No, I haven't. It's with Pisano, right? I have the other three they made together. Two great guitarists.

**neatomic** · 12-19-2015, 11:29 PM

not to sidetrack op, but other guitarist in the pisano/bean crowd was the great dennis budimir..the chico hamilton/paul horn/bud shank west coast scene..(that i love!)

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pisano is unheralded master...replaced jim hall with chico, joe pass right hand man,etc etc

cheers

**neatomic** · 12-20-2015, 11:04 PM

btw, due to your folks informed posts..been re-listening to garcias message from garcia..truly, what a gem (the blue carbuncle! hah)..the fact that it's three different sessions only adds..bill evans never sounded so straight boppish..pre kind of blue..and tony scott..pre zen..wow..yet great!..and garcias cutting bop guitar tones..really a great obscure release..

keep reminding/and or informing of the good stuff gents..much appreciated

gratefully

cheers

**neatomic** · 12-28-2015, 09:27 PM

been listening to lenny hambro quintet- message from hambro...great record

kinda reminds me of getz-johnny smith sessions

great stuff

cheers

**Irez87** · 12-29-2015, 03:14 AM

Damn you all!

I thought neatomic was bad...

I have Garcia on the Joe Puma album I bought. I love that sound. I think it's closer to the bebop sound that I'm chasing than Tal Farlow. Garcia sound more like Chuck Wayne and Johnny Smith to me, lighter on the touch with a chime-y-er sound than Tal.

Richie Vitale gave me some good vocabulary to shed on. Interestingly enough, he scoffed when I said "licks". He said "no, these are lines!" Now I understand the difference. Lines are more continuous. They are interconnected and have an arch that contributes to a larger phrase. Licks are more fragmented. Garcia, here, plays lines. A lot of "bebop" guitarists these days play licks.

**wirram** · 12-31-2015, 12:31 AM

Sgcim...IMHO, your HO is spot on. Greetings from Australia and Happy New Year. A few gigabytes back, we once enthused over Terry Smith.

**sgcim** · 01-01-2016, 03:53 PM

Ah, it's me old mate from down under, Ross Martin, who very kindly sent me Terry Smith with the Tony Lee Trio cassette!
Happy New Year to you!
Terry is still playing jazz, and even released a CD a few years ago on ARCD records, called "The Terry Smith Trio, Tenderly".
He's given up the pick, and plays like his main inspiration, Wes, in an organ trio featuring Phil Whittaker on organ, and Don Burrell on drums.

His other jazz LP, "Fallout" was re-issued on CD by Sunbeam Records. That was recorded 50 years ago, and was produced by the legendary Scott Walker, of the Walker Bros.

Terry was also mentioned quite a bit in the recent John McLaughlin bio "Bathed In Lightning". The author was confounded that TS won the Melody Maker Jazz Poll over McLaughlin for two years in a row!