William "Tuck" Andress

[wintermoon]

Read his insanely detailed and obsessive analysis of technique.

I clicked on that for a few seconds.
geez, he's certainly put quite a bit of thought into it.............

[edh]

I clicked on that for a few seconds.
geez, he's certainly put quite a bit of thought into it.............

to much thought if you ask me.

[339 in june]

to much thought if you ask me.

Did you read the list of all that may happen if you don't have good preparation ? (in section 1.2.5)
Funny !

[Jabberwocky]

Tuck is a great player. He actually has great time. He used to play with a funk band. I think it was The Dazz Band. I can't remember specifically. He played with some friends of mine.

Once he was asked to sub for a great band from Texas named Uncle Rainbow. That band later became Bourgeois Tagg, a band I played in. UR's guitarist cut the tip of a finger and Tuck subbed. They just gave him a cassette of some studio tracks they did. The guitarist overdubbed many tracks. When they did the gigs Tuck played the overdubbed tracks , harmony leads and all. He said he didn't know that the band wanted so he just learned the parts like that.

I heard he was funky as he want to be.

This time nazi shit is getting really old Rich. Some styles of jazz don't require metronomic time. Jack DeJohnette doesn't and he's one of the greatest jazz drummers of all time. You're incredibly ridged and narrow with what you can accept. Mingus' time was specifically NOT metronomic. There's ebb and flow, like breathing. This is a concept you seemed to have missed.

Thanks for posting that, man.

[Jim Soloway]

Tuck is a great player. He actually has great time. He used to play with a funk band. I think it was The Dazz Band.

I believe it was the Gap Band. I've seen Tuck & Patti several times and I've been listening to most of his work, both solo and with Patti, since the first T&P album. This is certainly not my favorite Tuck Andress performance but he's been a great inspiration to me and I consider him to be one of the finest guitarists I've ever seen. AFAIC he deserves nothing but respect (plus his wife is a real sweetheart as well as a magnificent singer).

[Onlyserious]

Jim is correct, it was the GAP Band. Tuck and the GAP Band are originally from Tulsa. I know Tuck studied some with local finger-style legend Tommy Crook. The GAP band moved to LA in the late 60's to try and make it as a funk band...and I think Tuck joined up with them when they were out there.

For a bit of Tulsa trivia: The GAP Band actually stood for the "Greenwood and Archer Players."

Greenwood and Archer is an intersection in Tulsa on "the wrong side of the tracks" made famous in the Bob Wills' tune "Take Me Back to Tulsa." The line in the tune goes "...let me out on Greenwood, and I'll walk down to Archer." It was where certain illicit activities took place, back in the day...

Samuel
Tulsa, OK

[henryrobinett]

Yup. I stand corrected. The Gap Band.

[djangoles]

a little back story in this

http://www.tuckandpatti.com/fault.html

[West LA Jazz]

You're right about him playing with a RnB band somewhere in Ohio.
It's somewhere on his site. I think he was still at Stanford when he started playing with them.
He said it was very humbling as he didn't "know anything" or how to play back then.
I believe that's when he figured out that it was better just to try and be the best he could be at playing like Tuck.


http://www.tuckandpatti.com/tuckscorner.shtml

(it's buried somewhere in an article linked from this page… I think)

[West LA Jazz]

Bingo!!!

[Patrick2]

Bad timing, corny arrangements that short-change the melody in favour of too-busy inner parts.

You guys cant hear this stuff clearly. A guy who sounds like that is NEVER going to be able to play funk and in fact, anything, with a great feel/time.

But who cares anyway? Its yet another typical internet storm in a stupid teacup. With people who cant play commenting about stuff they dont even notice normally. Normal internet drill.

And yes, Patti is a WONDERFUL singer.

How many albums does Tuck Andress have out there now???? He seems to be doing pretty good, even though having not met your standards. Now, on the other hand . . if you want to discuss his hair . . . . . .

[henryrobinett]

Rich- you are a piece of work. I hear what you're talking about. But I've heard Jarrett drop a beat. I heard Rollins play out of time, and as I said DeJohnette. Mingus was known for his elastic time. It's a concept of speeding up and slowing down.

You just have a very narrow band of what is acceptable to you. That's ok. People who play by themselves can adopt a rubato style. Solo piano players do this a lot. There's not a constant meter. Emotion is portrayed by this ebb and flow. But you need to be a dick and piss on everybody. You need to say that we just can't hear it. You don't have to criticize everybody.

[Patrick2]

Rich- you are a piece of work. I hear what you're talking about. But I've heard Jarrett drop a beat. I heard Rollins play out of time, and as I said DeJohnette. Mingus was known for his elastic time. It's a concept of speeding up and slowing down.

You just have a very narrow band of what is acceptable to you. That's ok. People who play by themselves can adopt a rubato style. Solo piano players do this a lot. There's not a constant meter. Emotion is portrayed by this ebb and flow. But you need to be a dick and piss on everybody. You need to say that we just can't hear it. You don't have to criticize everybody.

Damn Henry . . . . why do you let this banter get to you and piss you off as much as it does? Richb . . . is Richb. That ain't gonna change. Richb seems to be seeking intellectional engagement. I'd suggest you just go with it ... enter the fray . . . . and don't get pissed. He's a weird dude. Sometimes he's spot on . . . . sometimes he's way out there. He's not standing in front of you. So, you can't punch him in his face. He knows that. So then, just keep the dialog flowing. Both you and Richb are obviously somewhat (fairly well) accomplished. Just find a way to communicate. If each of you do that . . we'll all benefit from it.

[West LA Jazz]

To be fair to Tuck, you can see from this post that he worked really hard at playing with a pick. It later made more sense to work with his fingers.

He seems to have dissected Benson's right hand technique more than anyone I've seen.

http://www.tuckandpatti.com/pick-finger_tech.html