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    Damn could that guy play! I have not heard him play this song in a few years, and I forgot how masterful he is on it. You think its going to be all blues at the beginning, then he starts mixing in all the cool bop lines. Just when you start to tire of the steady eighth notes, he throws in the sixteenths at the PERFECT time. Do you thing Benson took just a LITTLE from Grant? One of the all time masters for sure!

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    In the early '70s a good friend was friendly with Elvin Jones. Elvin told her Grant Green was his favorite guitarist because "He knew how to tell a story."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tag
    Damn could that guy play! I have not heard him play this song in a few years, and I forgot how masterful he is on it. You think its going to be all blues at the beginning, then he starts mixing in all the cool bop lines. Just when you start to tire of the steady eighth notes, he throws in the sixteenths at the PERFECT time. Do you thing Benson took just a LITTLE from Grant? One of the all time masters for sure!
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    Amazon.com: Grant Green: Rediscovering the Forgotten Genius of Jazz Guitar (9780879306984): Sharony Andrews Green: Books

    George gives Grant props in this book. He really dug him and was influenced by him.

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    That's a good read, ain't it.

    I love when Benson talks about how maybe Grant couldn't burn like some guys, but he owned anyone (I think that's pwned to you internet savvy kids out there) on a mid-tempo groove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    That's a good read, ain't it.

    I love when Benson talks about how maybe Grant couldn't burn like some guys, but he owned anyone (I think that's pwned to you internet savvy kids out there) on a mid-tempo groove.
    Yes, and I learned about it from you, so much thanks. I love bios.

    Yeah, he's such a great and intricate player who I didn't appreciate until I was out of my 20s, the era when you know everything and invented it as well.

    I just ordered "Solid" today; recorded about a month after "Matador" which is one of my favorites. He covers "Ezz-Thetic" by George Rusell; that's great. Next will be the complete sides with Sonny Clark, another monster player.

    I have a transcription of Grant's solo on "Airegin"; it's deceptively paced at a moderate tempo but sure isn't easy to play.

    Man, that discography in the back of the bio is extensive. He was so prolific.

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    "Solid" is definitely a fave of mine...and those Quartets with Sonny are essential....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    "Solid" is definitely a fave of mine...and those Quartets with Sonny are essential....
    Do you have "Rough And Tumble"? It's a Stanley Turrentine record with Grant as a sideman. Great stuff.

    There's so much Grant that even when I think I have it all, I don't. If they put out all his stuff it wouldn't be a box set; it would be crate set.

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    you have to check the early 60's trio stuff, with ben dixon, and either babyface willette or big john patton.
    like grants first stand, lou donaldson's here 'tis, any of the first john patton's and babyface willette's face to face...
    such unbelievable groove. no one grooves like that trio....

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    Quote Originally Posted by whosgarethparry
    you have to check the early 60's trio stuff, with ben dixon, and either babyface willette or big john patton.
    like grants first stand, lou donaldson's here 'tis, any of the first john patton's and babyface willette's face to face...
    such unbelievable groove. no one grooves like that trio....
    I don't have any of that! Now you see what I mean; so much material.

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    Oh yeah--that's some badass jazz right there.

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    Great to see so many Grat fans! I am among those who thought he was nothing special when I was in my 20s. His "lack" of chops (until you actually transcribe and try and play it) totally fooled me. He is a great example of someone who can keep it as interesting as anyone without playing a million miles an hour. Real early Benson (with Jack mcduff and red holloway) shows a young Benson quoting greens lines pretty much note for note! Of course soon after Benson took it to a place that is all his own. Its Uptown with GB and Cookbook anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paynow
    ... George gives Grant props in this book. He really dug him and was influenced by him.
    ... including his sound. Where Wes sounds darker, like Charlie Christian, George's tone is brighter, more like Grant.

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    Love GG and I've transcribed his stuff before:
    “Grantstand” by Grant Green aswas

    I think I read a quote from Benson saying that G.G. put the middle control on full and backed off the bass and treble to get his sound!

    The Bio is well worth a read for any fans, it really tells a great story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tag
    Great to see so many Grat fans! I am among those who thought he was nothing special when I was in my 20s. His "lack" of chops (until you actually transcribe and try and play it) totally fooled me. He is a great example of someone who can keep it as interesting as anyone without playing a million miles an hour. Real early Benson (with Jack mcduff and red holloway) shows a young Benson quoting greens lines pretty much note for note! Of course soon after Benson took it to a place that is all his own. Its Uptown with GB and Cookbook anyone?
    +1

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    Grant Green is fantastic and The Latin Bit is one of his best records. When I first got into him I saw him as a mean to an end, I was interested in more "complex" players but their stuff was completely over my head, so I thought it would be a great idea to study "transitional" players that would lead me where I wanted to go. Soon after I started to check him out I realized I had completely misjudged his contribution and that I should pay more attention to it.

    A turning point was hearing George Benson quoting note-for-note lines from Grant Green on his solo on Mambo Inn. If it was good enough for Benson, it was good enough for me!

    My favorite Cds are Grantstand, The Latin Bit, The Feelin' Spirit, Solid, Matador and Into Somethin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario Abbagliati
    Grant Green is fantastic and The Latin Bit is one of his best records. When I first got into him I saw him as a mean to an end, I was interested in more "complex" players but their stuff was completely over my head, so I thought it would be a great idea to study "transitional" players that would lead me where I wanted to go. Soon after I started to check him out I realized I had completely misjudged his contribution and that I should pay more attention to it.

    A turning point was hearing George Benson quoting note-for-note lines from Grant Green on his solo on Mambo Inn. If it was good enough for Benson, it was good enough for me!

    My favorite Cds are Grantstand, The Latin Bit, The Feelin' Spirit, Solid, Matador and Into Somethin'.

    Feelin the spirit always seems to get overlooked. Great recording!

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    Boogaloo Joe Jones?? one of my absolute favourites. anyone know much about him, virtually nothin online

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    Now that's cool.

    You've played with Butch before too, right, IIRC? Ever get to hear any stories or is it strictly professional?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whosgarethparry
    Boogaloo Joe Jones?? one of my absolute favourites. anyone know much about him, virtually nothin online
    All I know is that "Black Whip" is one of my favourite tunes of all time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Now that's cool.

    You've played with Butch before too, right, IIRC? Ever get to hear any stories or is it strictly professional?
    Yes, yes, stories, ingeneri!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whosgarethparry
    you have to check the early 60's trio stuff, with ben dixon, and either babyface willette or big john patton.
    like grants first stand, lou donaldson's here 'tis, any of the first john patton's and babyface willette's face to face...
    such unbelievable groove. no one grooves like that trio....
    I prefer him on the Organ blues groove records w Baby Face and others .I think he,s in his element - as good as the other stuff is.
    I too wish the Green,Willette,Dixon Trio had done more - would loved to have heard ,em live over a beer .