Guitarist on So What - Miles Davis

[jamiehenderson1993]

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[kris]

Just for fun!

Was listening to Kind Of Blue [the title has a typo and I can't chnage it ... d'oh!] the other day, and wondered... who would have been the perfect guitarist to play on this album? So...

If Miles Davis had picked a guitarist to play on the album (who was on the scene at the time), who would you pick?

I must say, I'd LOVE to hear Jim Hall on those tunes!

No guitarist would fit into this Miles album.Miles had his own concept for the music on this album.
For what purpose would he hire a guitarist for this recording of the album?
Kind Of Blue is a brilliant production and let it stay that way.

[James W]

Jamie, you might like to listen to this, which I believe is the last time Miles recorded So What. It features John McLaughlin -

But as for your question, I'm not sure. Maybe Jim Hall or Wes...

[Doug B]

Kenny Burrell? He recorded an album with Coltrane, btw.

[kris]

Jimi Hendrix-it was Miles' dream.

[2bornot2bop]

Indy wasn’t that far from St Louis, near Miles’ home town. And, Wes and Miles were close in age. So, they fit.

[AllanAllen]

Kenny Burrell? He recorded an album with Coltrane, btw.

Burrell for sure. He would have nailed it. Grant Green for my 2nd pick.

[wolflen]

Not liking the vid at all..far away from KOB..


Kenny Burrell..but I would want to hear Bill Evans chord flavorings..

Its hard to hear a guitar on KOB..it was not in the blueprint.

Of course I have heard many takes on the tunes away from the album..All Blues has alot of recordings and other KOB tunes.

[Peter C]

Wes.

Martino and Benson when they were a few years older

[AllanAllen]

Kenny understands space. Benson and Martino are too notey. Typewriter 16ths isn’t what KoB is about.

[Cunamara]

Man, that sax solo is exemplary of why I often hate listening to horn players. On and on and on saying almost nothing- to me at least. YMMV, of course, someone else might think that was absolutely brilliant. If it was, my ears aren't good enough to hear it.

Few jazz tunes need 20 choruses of soloing- as Charlie Parker put it, after the 3rd chorus you're just practicing. In my old quintet the sax player would often ask me why I almost never took a second chorus; my reason was that if the first chorus was good, it didn't need a second chorus- and if the first chorus sucked, the second chorus probably wasn't going to be any better.

[kris]

Man, that sax solo is exemplary of why I often hate listening to horn players. On and on and on saying almost nothing- to me at least. YMMV, of course, someone else might think that was absolutely brilliant. If it was, my ears aren't good enough to hear it.

Few jazz tunes need 20 choruses of soloing- as Charlie Parker put it, after the 3rd chorus you're just practicing. In my old quintet the sax player would often ask me why I almost never took a second chorus; my reason was that if the first chorus was good, it didn't need a second chorus- and if the first chorus sucked, the second chorus probably wasn't going to be any better.

Steve Grossman -he is the genius of the saxophone.Not everyone plays so great at 19 playing with Miles..
Interestingly, he himself said that he learned the most from Parker and Coltrane.
I love listening to him play.

[frabarmus]

I really liked Steve Grossman's solo and like him as a player (lovely use of pentatonics, BTW)!

Here he is with, among others, Brasilian (Roman naturalised) guitarist Irio De Paula (of whom I've found no traces on the Forum and that's a pity).

Irio De Paula - Wikipedia

[kris]

I really liked Steve Grossman's solo and like him as a player (lovely use of pentatonics, BTW)!

Here he is with, among others, Brasilian (Roman naturalised) guitarist Irio De Paula (of whom I've found no traces on the Forum and that's a pity).

Irio De Paula - Wikipedia

+1
Amazing modern jazz language.

[Christian Miller]

Jamie, you might like to listen to this, which I believe is the last time Miles recorded So What. It features John McLaughlin -

But as for your question, I'm not sure. Maybe Jim Hall or Wes...

That's really cool. It's interesting to hear these older tunes played with the aesthetic of the Miles electric period.

McLaughlin is wheeling out the destructo-chops on this, which I don't think tends to be a feature of Miles's studio albums for whatever reason.

I haven't heard much Miles stuff with no keys on it. OTOH Johnny Mac ain't comping much. Maybe Miles asked him not to?

The way the is mixed is completely insane. Why is the bass so loud? Hard to believe it's a studio recording? I guess the original multi track is lost...

So many questions lol.

[kris]

That's really cool. It's interesting to hear these older tunes played with the aesthetic of the Miles electric period.

McLaughlin is wheeling out the destructo-chops on this, which I don't think tends to be a feature of Miles's studio albums for whatever reason.

I haven't heard much Miles stuff with no keys on it. OTOH Johnny Mac ain't comping much. Maybe Miles asked him not to?

The way the is mixed is completely insane. Why is the bass so loud? Hard to believe it's a studio recording? I guess the original multi track is lost...

So many questions lol.

In addition, digital processing for the needs of the Internet is added. And you have the answer.

[paulkogut]

It's interesting to think of the various guitar connections to Kind of Blue

Jim Hall and Bill Evans

Kenny Burrell and John Coltrane

Wes Montgomery with Cannonball, Winton Kelly, Paul Chambers and Jimmy Cobb

[James W]

It's interesting to think of the various guitar connections to Kind of Blue

Jim Hall and Bill Evans

Kenny Burrell and John Coltrane

Wes Montgomery with Cannonball, Winton Kelly, Paul Chambers and Jimmy Cobb

Wes also played with Trane - not for that long, apparently he didn't like playing such long tunes...

[frabarmus]

I think, perhaps, Lenny Breau would've been cool for playing on KOB... he's sophisticated and bluesy enough and his guitar does sound a bit like a piano (I mean, he could play lines and comp chords at the same time, just like a pianist).

[Little Jay]

Jamie, you might like to listen to this, which I believe is the last time Miles recorded So What. It features John McLaughlin -

But as for your question, I'm not sure. Maybe Jim Hall or Wes...

Holy moly… that hurts my ears….. definitely not my thing I’ll stick to the Kind Of Blue version!

I think Grant Green would have been an interesting addition on KoB (but maybe not… KoB is actually perfect the way it is).

[Peter C]

+1 Lenny Breau btw. Yes, Kind Of Blue is kind of perfect as it stands, but there's nothing wrong with imagining guitar on it, this being a jazz guitar forum