Antoine Boyer

[kris]

[Peter C]

I could listen to Antoine all day.

[tramline]

It's nice to hear Antoine get this kind of spotlight; he speaks so clearly and directly about his playing! Inspired me to try that flat side of the pick thing he does.

[Christian Miller]

He’s an absolute beast

What even is this?

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[Mick-7]

He’s an absolute beast

What even is this?

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I just noticed the Beato interview today, he said in it that he's "learning classical guitar," God help us when he's become proficient at it.

[Rob MacKillop]

There should be a law against being so good at both styles. Best wishes to him!

[kris]

There should be a law against being so good at both styles. Best wishes to him!

And pop...:-)

[sgcim]

There should be a law against being so good at both styles. Best wishes to him!

Hopefully, they'll pass something.
Or maybe it's just AI.....
Or an alien....
His head looks too big for his body; that's gotta mean something...

[Christian Miller]

AI Antoine Boyer can’t hurt you


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[frabarmus]

[jbernstein91]

From eight years ago:

[Cunamara]

I am tired of "Is XXXX the world's best guitarist" clickbait, though. Is it Julian Lage? Is it Matteo Mancuso? Antoine Boyer? Guthrie Govan? Alex Skolnick? The guy from Sleep Token? Marcin? Jacob Collier? Or is it Cameron Fernandez, who clearly thinks he's better than most everyone else and entitled to take them down a peg or two on YouTube?

Is it a competition?

[Mick-7]

I am tired of "Is XXXX the world's best guitarist" clickbait, though.

Someone should buy Rick Beato a thesaurus, he needs new adjectives, it's always the greatest this or that: performance, song, guitar riff or solo, guitarist, unknown musician, etc.

[kris]

I am tired of "Is XXXX the world's best guitarist" clickbait, though. Is it Julian Lage? Is it Matteo Mancuso? Antoine Boyer? Guthrie Govan? Alex Skolnick? The guy from Sleep Token? Marcin? Jacob Collier? Or is it Cameron Fernandez, who clearly thinks he's better than most everyone else and entitled to take them down a peg or two on YouTube?

Is it a competition?

This is a competition, but for titles.
Which video title will have the highest viewership?
Antoine Boyer-he surprised me because he plays in several clips on a classical guitar that he built himself.
It took him 7 years to make a guitar - this has never happened before... :-)

[Jonah]

He’s an absolute beast

What even is this?

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astonishing technically but musically it is almost impossible to do it on guitar as well as you can do it on keyboards even for virtuoso players. Too many things are lost (imitations are often hardly heard, lower voice is often lost where it should be highlighted (as it creates broader breath in this piece, also there is a certain metric irregularity in the melody in the 2nd section, but he does not play it all) and all that turns a piece into a very mechanic music...
On guitar you either need less dense texture (so do it in a duo) or maybe slow down to have more space for dynamics and articulation control....
on keyboard (both piano or harpsichord) you can shoot it very fast and still keep the articulation under control.

I wonder how he would play some Sor or Mertz music, or Tarega preludes... even not necessarily very complex technically - like for example Sor's lessons: they can be quite simple but difficult to play well... in that kind of music it would show immediately.

But I like his jazz/pop stuff, I began to appreciate it lately much more than when I heard him first a few years ago.
I missed his concert with Yeore Kim (who is fantastic on chromatic harp) in Leuven unfortunately.....

[Jonah]

I am tired of "Is XXXX the world's best guitarist" clickbait, though. Is it Julian Lage? Is it Matteo Mancuso? Antoine Boyer? Guthrie Govan? Alex Skolnick? The guy from Sleep Token? Marcin? Jacob Collier? Or is it Cameron Fernandez, who clearly thinks he's better than most everyone else and entitled to take them down a peg or two on YouTube?

Is it a competition?

To certain degree - yes.
And also we live in the era where guitar (classical for sure) has moved to another stage... it has happened to piano and violine and cello too but earlier.
Every instrument begins often within the limits that normal people can handle but it developes when the virtuosi with special abilities step in and they compose or transcribe or music is composed for them specifically... on piano it was 19th century: Chopin, then Liszt, then Rakhmaninov and so on...
Playing Bach, Mozart, Schumann, Schubert is quite possible for advanced amateurs... playing most Chopin (except Mazurka's maybe) and Liszt you need to have special skills of start learning since you are 3 years old and dedicate all your life to it. So repertoire switched from music for amateurs (as it was in baroque, classical, early romantic) to music for professionals, and it influenced also the demands and performace school, the instrument builders, the further repertoire and so on.

But something has changed also in musicality... you see in sports for example Lev Yashin is the only goal keeper to have a Ballon D'Or in soccer, but would he be able to stand against modern forwards? And how can be modern great goalkeepers compared with him...

The same mentality is transformed to music performance also.. but music is not sports. In sports the result is the key, not result and nobody cares how beautifully you dribble or direct the game... in arts it is totally the opposite. I think it puts us in the dead end actually...

The best forward or pitcher is clear, because it scores

But what is 'the best' in music actually? In these clickbait vid's the accent is mostly also on 'scores': speed, technical abilities. Something easily measurable.

And this is also important for prodigy players, somebody should really guide them to certain values in music early otherwise their gift can work against them eventually.

[kris]

It seems to me that AB is a jazz musician after all.
For all those who like classical guitar in the true sense of the word, I would recommend listening to the deceased not so long ago...Kazuhito Yamashita.
Best
Kris

[Christian Miller]

astonishing technically but musically it is almost impossible to do it on guitar as well as you can do it on keyboards even for virtuoso players. Too many things are lost (imitations are often hardly heard, lower voice is often lost where it should be highlighted (as it creates broader breath in this piece, also there is a certain metric irregularity in the melody in the 2nd section, but he does not play it all) and all that turns a piece into a very mechanic music...
On guitar you either need less dense texture (so do it in a duo) or maybe slow down to have more space for dynamics and articulation control....
on keyboard (both piano or harpsichord) you can shoot it very fast and still keep the articulation under control.

I wonder how he would play some Sor or Mertz music, or Tarega preludes... even not necessarily very complex technically - like for example Sor's lessons: they can be quite simple but difficult to play well... in that kind of music it would show immediately.

But I like his jazz/pop stuff, I began to appreciate it lately much more than when I heard him first a few years ago.
I missed his concert with Yeore Kim (who is fantastic on chromatic harp) in Leuven unfortunately.....

I think a good way of putting would be that he would have a future in classical guitar if he chose to dedicate his studies to it.

But yeah, I don't get the feeling he has gone deep with the interpretation.

[Christian Miller]

I am tired of "Is XXXX the world's best guitarist" clickbait, though. Is it Julian Lage? Is it Matteo Mancuso? Antoine Boyer? Guthrie Govan? Alex Skolnick? The guy from Sleep Token? Marcin? Jacob Collier? Or is it Cameron Fernandez, who clearly thinks he's better than most everyone else and entitled to take them down a peg or two on YouTube?

Is it a competition?

No of course not. It's bonkers to me that people even think that way.

That said, it's probably Antoine lol.

[jazzloverfat]

Someone should buy Rick Beato a thesaurus, he needs new adjectives, it's always the greatest this or that: performance, song, guitar riff or solo, guitarist, unknown musician, etc.

Don't hate the playa hate the game... I dislike these titles too and unless I am REALLY interested in the topic I don't watch them out of spite, but sadly it's how YT works...

EDIT: or the "Underrated genius of [insert player name]" when talking about someone very famous. There's a special place in hell for these types of content creators.

[Christian Miller]

Don't hate the playa hate the game... I dislike these titles too and unless I am REALLY interested in the topic I don't watch them out of spite, but sadly it's how YT works...

I sometimes wonder if it's a self fulfilling cycle. People go more extreme because they feel they need to get attention.

YouTubers are trying to draw conclusions from a very noisy signal.

[GBRow]

And pop...:-)

Does Harmonica get used for jazz music? Always used think harmonica is for blues and folk music.

[Peter C]

That said, it's probably Antoine lol.

+1

Regarding the question about the harmonica in jazz, check out YouTube vids of Gregoire Maret, especially playing with Charlie Hunter c. 2002

[grahambop]

Does Harmonica get used for jazz music? Always used think harmonica is for blues and folk music.

Not often, but it exists, check out Toots Thielemans (he also played guitar).

[Jonah]

Does Harmonica get used for jazz music? Always used think harmonica is for blues and folk music.

Besides, Toots and a few other players... Larry Adler was also partly in jazz (though he did more of mix btw pop/jazz/classical, Hohner has a signature Harry Adler model that I own)

I used to be a big fan of chromatic harmonica and played quite a lot in my youth, those days I lived in St.Petersburg and there was a fantastic jazz harp player Maxim Nekrasov (I do not know where he is now)