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I have been looking for listening to other guitarist and totally forgot about Chuck Wayne. I listen to him over years but found some nicer videos and wow he could play. His chord and single line work are superb and concise. My understanding is he also got caught up playing classical guitar in his later years. He seems a bit forgotten but I am going to be tuning him in and getting better at some of his picking technique. He was one of the go in the direction of the string on strictly alternate.
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02-02-2026 05:50 PM
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Don’t get much better than this for my ears
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I saw Chuck with Joe Puma when i was in high school,those two guys had a great rapport.Got to meet him a few times through the years,great player and nice guy. He doesn't get his due in the jazz guitar pantheon.
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I'm curious what jazz guitarists did get their due, that you believe didn't deserve it, as much as Wayne. (Guitarist that played a similar style).
Originally Posted by nyc chaz
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just played Wes Gone with the Wind transcription...got stuck in the middle so added a Zoot Sims chorus..worked ..love mixing this stuff up
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My point was more people should check out Chuck Wayne and that does not mean i have to cast shade on other players.That's not my deal,i'll leave that to others on this site who sound really idiotic sometimes with their critiques of top players.I have nothing but respect for anyone who made a lifelong living as a musician especilly in the jazz field. Originally Posted by jameslovestal
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Wayne got is "due" in my circle of jazz musicians and listeners, that is why I asked. My take is that when one says someone didn't get their "due" they are hanging out with unknowledge people. Originally Posted by nyc chaz
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Aren't you the guy that said Larry Carlton doesn't play jazz?Talk about unknowlegeable. Originally Posted by jameslovestal
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Francois Leduc, a one-man transcription machine in Montreal, has a number of Chuck Wayne transcriptions (among a host of other jazz guitarists) on his YouTube page:
Francois Leduc - YouTube
If you're not a Patreon member, he limits access to the PDFs. Last time I checked, you can become a Patreon member for this site at $5/month for ongoing PDF access, and if you also want GP files, it's $10/month. Both are really good deals.
John Galich
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No, I'm not that guy. AND, I did NOT say you're unknowledgeable about jazz or jazz guitarist. Instead, it was you that said "He (Wayne) doesn't get his due in the jazz guitar pantheon.". Thus, it is you that implied this "jazz pantheon" you mentioned isn't very knowledgably (aware of Wayne), or they are aware and just don't see his immense ability (like you and I do). Originally Posted by nyc chaz
Thus, I was curious what other jazz guitarists you feel this "jazz pantheon" gives their due that don't deserve it as much as Wayne, does.
Sorry you took my question as some type of criticism or challenge.
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I was fortunate enough to be at the Westchester Conservatory when he was teaching there in the early 1980s, and still have his book laying out an approach to use movable four note chords.
After a decade long hiatus from jazz guitar in the 1990s during which I studied world music, his albums were on rotation among other greats to get my ears back into the jazz groove once again.
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I've attached an article on Chuck Wayne's picking technique. In the article, the author says, "Chuck had his own brand of guitar strings for a while, made I believe by a German company." Does anyone know more about that?
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No, but he generally used LaBella strings, initially round wounds and then later flats and finally quarter rounds.
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Thank you. The article also mentioned that he mixed string sets in a unique way, I suppose he did it with the LaBella strings too. Originally Posted by PMB
"Chuck enhanced this sound even more by varying string gauges: he used a wound second string and (I believe) used a string set of 12’s for the 3 higher strings and chose the lower 3 from a set of 10’s, so when you played across the strings you had approximately the same string resistance."
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Isn't Chuck Wayne the guy Pasquale Grasso went to for right hand technique?
And doesn't Pete Bernstein use basically the same right hand technique?
i.e. - very roughly - pickplusfingers
certainly that would make Chuck Wayne a very important figure
i'm annoyed that i have to give up my 'pickonly' approach - so i'm in a bit of a grump with CW
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Pasquale Grasso studied with a student of Wayne's, if I'm not mistaken. Originally Posted by Groyniad
Peter Bernstein doesn't have the same RH technique.
While hybrid picking is an aspect of the Wayne/Grasso technique/style, their picking technique is 'circular' picking where the motion comes from thumb and finger coupled with economy picking.
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Yes, Pasquale Grasso studied with Agostino Di Giorgio who edited Chuck Wayne's Scales and Chords books. There's a clear connection between them all in terms of RH technique:
I know Peter Bernstein quite well and when I showed him my own folio of Chuck Wayne transcriptions about 15 years ago (Pasquale kindly proofread them all), he confessed that he wasn't too aware of CW's catalogue or contributions.
Unlike all the aforementioned guitarists, PB is very much a pick player even when playing solo. He'll occasionally go into hybrid mode if the situation requires it but I'd say it's more the exception than the rule.
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Chuck Wayne's picking technique is unclear to me, is there a video we can see of him playing? (or of one of his students who uses his technique).
"On Tuesday evenings, he plays at Gregory's, a Manhattan Jazz Club"
Except of course on the one Tuesday that I was in New York and went to see him, he took that night off.
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For some reason, I'm confused by the "pushing" concept. Maybe it's because alternate picking is so ingrained in me. What I probably need is a close-up video or drawing/animation of how it's supposed to work.
John Galich
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I never knew he played what looks like a Guild Artist Award. Or maybe it's a guitar Carlo Greco made under his own name.
John Galich
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The motion is meant to come from movement of the thumb and finger with which you grip the pick. Originally Posted by jmgalich
There is a thread on the forum called Circular Picking which contains videos of demonstrations of this. I also can recommend the first video on My Music Masterclass by Pasquale Grasso where he demonstrates and talks about it.
This is the way I pick, but I think the name 'circular' picking is a bit of a misnomer. I pick this way because I found I could tremolo at a fast speed with this motion considerably easier than I could with any wrist-based motion. It feels easy - but what's not easy is developing how long I can do it, learning to control accents etc. and that's before you get to the issue of changing strings...
Although I vouch for this picking motion, I have been reliably informed that actually more people find wrist-based motions easier to develop.
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There are a couple YouTube videos of Chuck Wayne playing, this one has some close-ups:
Chuck Wayne w. Mike Morreale Qt. 2
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