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Some arrangements seem to gather a life of their own and eventually, become the preferred way to play a song. Some ballads lend themselves to alternate treatment as an uptempo swinger. Philly organist Richard "Groove Holmes' " version of Misty is one of those arrangements and there are probably lots more examples but here are a couple ......
RICHARD “GROOVE” HOLMES:
CHARLIE BATY: STARTS 5:20
LARRY CARLTON WITH TAL. FARLOW
Last edited by AndyV; 08-14-2025 at 11:26 AM.
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08-13-2025 03:07 PM
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being as how he was from Camden NJ just across the river I doubt you'll find anyone in the Philly area that doesn't play Groove's arrangement on that one, maybe everywhere else too. I think it was his only jukebox hit.
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Very nice, all three, but prefer the Holmes take if I had to pick one.
Thanks for posting this, it usually gets called as a ballad at jazz jam sessions here, but I’m definitely gonna call it this way next week.
IMHO, that’s perhaps the sign of a great tune, that it lends itself to a variety of musical contexts.
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It's interesting how "swing" and "shuffle" are often mingled. Any time you have a hard 2 & 4 in swing, you are entering into shuffle territory. Some of Buddy Rich's hardest swing beats could really be considered fast blues shuffles.
Originally Posted by AndyV
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JazzPadd, I agree. Holmes recording is perfect IMHO. I like Charlie's version but Larry's rock edge kind of rubs me the wrong way even though he's a masterful, grooving guitar player.
There seem to be a wide variety of feels that people count as swing as long as two and four are emphasized. Are there one and three feels that you could call swing?



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