Unheard nice songs

[JimmyDunlop]

I will be posting nice songs nobody plays with guitar or very rare nobody knows. Not from jazz

[Christian Miller]

How Keatsian


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[JimmyDunlop]

I will be posting nice songs nobody plays with guitar or very rare nobody knows. Not from jazz

?? you mean the english poet? it has no relation to him, not that I know

[Christian Miller]

?? you mean the english poet? it has no relation to him, not that I know

‘Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard are sweeter’ Ode on a Grecian Urn


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[JimmyDunlop]

Anyways I fixed it

I noticed that the singer used free singing anticipations contrary to the original one and the score. Now is synchronised better

[JimmyDunlop]

‘Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard are sweeter’ Ode on a Grecian Urn


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check it now

its better now

[Boss Man Zwiebelsohn]

check it now

its better now

These lyrics are out-datedly sexist.

[JimmyDunlop]

[Boss Man Zwiebelsohn]

^ If you want to be convincing you should study these physical movements. It is actually not too far from the whirling dervishes e.g. of the Mevlevi Sufi order in Turkey. It has to go around and around and around.

[Hep To The Jive]

I will be posting nice songs nobody plays with guitar or very rare nobody knows. Not from jazz

This song reminded me the movie Cabaret. Are those from the Nazi's era?

[Boss Man Zwiebelsohn]

This song reminded me the movie Cabaret. Are those from the Nazi's era?

No much earlier. The Merry Widow is from 1905. (How come nobody ever uses Wikipedia? It has its own search engine.)

But Hitler seems to have liked Franz Léhar and awarded him the Goethe-Medaille für Kunst und Wissenschaft (Goethe medal for arts and sciences) in 1940.

[Hep To The Jive]

No much earlier. The Merry Widow is from 1905. (How come nobody ever uses Wikipedia? It has its own search engine.)

But Hitler seems to have liked Franz Léhar and awarded him the Goethe-Medaille für Kunst und Wissenschaft (Goethe medal for arts and sciences) in 1940.

i was told Wikipedia can't be trusted anymore.

Yea it's got that 30's German vibe, no wonder Hitler dug it.

[Boss Man Zwiebelsohn]

i was told Wikipedia can't be trusted anymore.

Yea it's got that 30's German vibe, no wonder Hitler dug it.

Seems like you don't know much about classical music ...

[Christian Miller]

Austrian operetta?

After singing Fledermaus I’ve always had a soft spot for Johann Strauss. He knew what his thing was.

Don’t really know Lehar.


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[Hep To The Jive]

Seems like you don't know much about classical music ...

Lol, I know some! I was A grade music history in college, but yea, the composers of this genre weren't covered much. They should've been more inclusive and not ignore Hitlers laureates! Well, I'm getting my education here now.

[JimmyDunlop]

No that song doesnt sound like cabarets from 30's or 20's. Its a sung march. A great composition by lehar.
The music from that film IS awful. I think music from those real cabarets where not as bad as the film but im not sure. Anyways viennese operetta music IS million of times better than that for sure

[JimmyDunlop]

I think I have heard the real cabarets music from that time and It IS not worthy. Music decadence

[Boss Man Zwiebelsohn]

Austrian operetta?

After singing Fledermaus I’ve always had a soft spot for Johann Strauss. He knew what his thing was.

Don’t really know Lehar.


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Do not know much operetta, my parents were into Mozart and Verdi regarding opera, but not much into the light operettas. But I knew the name Lehar from the radio when I was a kid (there was always the classical channel of Bavarian public broadcast on). According to Wiki (I do not expect much edit wars regarding operettas) it is his most famous operetta.

IIRC I was three times in my life in a musical theater, the first time was Engelbert Humperdinck's (the real Engelbert Humperdinck's) children's opera Hänsel and Gretel after a Grimm bros. fairytale, the second time was Verdi's Don Juan and the third time was the French operetta The tales of Hoffmann by Jacques Offenbach.

[Boss Man Zwiebelsohn]

Lol, I know some! I was A grade music history in college, but yea, the composers of this genre weren't covered much. They should've been more inclusive and not ignore Hitlers laureates! Well, I'm getting my education here now.

The librettists of The Merry Widow were BTW the Jews Victor Léon (real name Victor Hirschfeld) and Leo Stein (real name Leo Rosenstein). (Again: I do not think there is as much edit wars in Wikipedia regarding Austrian operetta as there is regarding e.g. American elections or Israel/Palestine).

[Boss Man Zwiebelsohn]

This song reminded me the movie Cabaret. Are those from the Nazi's era?

The story of Cabaret takes place 1929/30. The rise to power of the NSDAP was January 30th, 1933. In the 1920ies in Berlin there were many Jewish pop music composers.

History test failed, that'll be an F.

[Ukena]

Cabaret is based on al successful 1951 play, I Am a Camera, by John van Druten, which was based on a successful 1939 novel, Goodbye to Berlin, by Christopher Isherwood. The success of the musical, as often happens, eclipsed the play and the novel. I read both while in high school (the '60's); I doubt if many people have read either in this century.

All three works were quite transparently anti-Nazi.

I fail to see how any music can be decadent, except when labelled so by those with a political ax to grind. Lyrics, perhaps, but music?

As for operetta, after Offenbach, Viennese operettas came to the fore – Strauss II, Lehár, Oscar Straus, among many others – followed by German (Kurt Weill wrote operettas) and Italian operettas. Puccini called his works operettas in three acts, and many Italian composers whose operas are performed world-wide also wrote operettas. I remember many operettas from my youth, performed in major opera houses: The Student Prince, Naughty Marietta, Merry Widow, Die Fledermaus, The Chocolate Soldier, Pantaloon, and others. Then, of course, there is the work of Gilbert and Sullivan, which still has passionate adherents, despite its many antiquated notions, to put it politely.

[Boss Man Zwiebelsohn]

Cabaret is based on al successful 1951 play, I Am a Camera, by John van Druten, which was based on a successful 1939 novel, Goodbye to Berlin, by Christopher Isherwood. The success of the musical, as often happens, eclipsed the play and the novel. I read both while in high school (the '60's); I doubt if many people have read either in this century.

All three works were quite transparently anti-Nazi.

I fail to see how any music can be decadent, except when labelled so by those with a political ax to grind. Lyrics, perhaps, but music?

As for operetta, after Offenbach, Viennese operettas came to the fore – Strauss II, Lehár, Oscar Strauss, among many others – followed by German (Kurt Weill wrote operettas) and Italian operettas. Puccini called his works operettas in three acts, and many Italian composers whose operas are performed world-wide also wrote operettas. I remember many operettas from my youth, performed in major opera houses: The Student Prince, Naughty Marietta, Merry Widow, Die Fledermaus, The Chocolate Soldier, Pantaloon, and others. Then, of course, there is the work of Gilbert and Sullivan, which still has passionate adherents, despite its many antiquated notions, to put it politely.

Well, this sounds like A grade music history.

[JimmyDunlop]

Cabaret is based on al successful 1951 play, I Am a Camera, by John van Druten, which was based on a successful 1939 novel, Goodbye to Berlin, by Christopher Isherwood. The success of the musical, as often happens, eclipsed the play and the novel. I read both while in high school (the '60's); I doubt if many people have read either in this century.

All three works were quite transparently anti-Nazi.

I fail to see how any music can be decadent, except when labelled so by those with a political ax to grind. Lyrics, perhaps, but music?

As for operetta, after Offenbach, Viennese operettas came to the fore – Strauss II, Lehár, Oscar Strauss, among many others – followed by German (Kurt Weill wrote operettas) and Italian operettas. Puccini called his works operettas in three acts, and many Italian composers whose operas are performed world-wide also wrote operettas. I remember many operettas from my youth, performed in major opera houses: The Student Prince, Naughty Marietta, Merry Widow, Die Fledermaus, The Chocolate Soldier, Pantaloon, and others. Then, of course, there is the work of Gilbert and Sullivan, which still has passionate adherents, despite its many antiquated notions, to put it politely.

DECADENT int terms of quality, specially the film music (completely awful), but also the real cabaret music from the 30's and 20's. specially compared to the real operettas.
oscar strauss not a relevant composer. Would be Strauss ,Lehar, Von SUppe, Kalman, Heuberger, Millocker .

[JimmyDunlop]

Well, this sounds like A grade music history.

no it doesnt sound like that. The most succesful operettas has been:

Die Fledermaus and then The Merry Widow.
Golden era operetta: till the death of Johann Strauss in 1899 or 98.. Strauss, Suppe, Millocker
Silver Era: Lehar, Kalman. Most iconic: The MERRY Widow. But you have graffin mariza. an The Opera Ball by Heuberger. a really great one

I think most important operettas would vbe: Die fledermaus (strauss), a night in venice (strauss), bocaccio (suppe), Indigo (strauss) The gypsy baron (strauss) The merry widow.

its hard to me to find a fully great operetta from the beginning to the end. sometimes so so operettas has some great music but then low quality too..

It would be easier if I just make a selection of the greatest moments of each operetta instead of the full work.

source: Johann Strauss and Vienna. Cambridge Press

THtas the source to base my comment

[JimmyDunlop]

operetta is the most terrible underrated genre ever I think. This audio must be one of the best things ever made, but nobody knows it... surprisingly is from 1928, a very late one operetta by Lehar
The Tsarevich . Again the problem is that he cant keep this level through all this operetta.(Nobody could)
But this Aria I am sharing , I would place it in my top 5 of the msot impressive compositions I ever heard for sure. Way better than Italian opera ( never been a fan of it) I never liked italian opera overall, but thats a personal opinion, Perhaps only rossini