Imparting blues on subdominants?

[Strat-itis]

Find anything yet? Apparently not. Why do you think that is?

1) Looking for the wrong thing

2) Looking for the right thing in the wrong place

3) Not looking

sorry, couldn't resist :-)

Haha. I decided not to reinvent the wheel and just stick with the basic tools of dorian and blues scale, plus practical embellishments like the crew said.

I have a scale that I made up that goes pretty well with blues scale. It's the 2nd mode of the bebop major scale and it ends up dorian with the tritone. So it has the tritone like blues scale, but is also dorian. This gives me a 3 scale combo with 6, 7, and 8 note options:

blues scale
dorian
dorian + tritone

[Strat-itis]

And you kept reading after that?!?!

I'm willing to entertain euphemisms like "color-bearing" and "tonic swagger" if I'm up late at night shooting the shit with other musicians ...and we're all drunk AF.

But with a bot?!?! I have zero tolerance for that crap.

It getting what I mean but using poor descriptors doesn't bother me. I more get triggered when it gets all subversive to my aims and insulting lol.

[ragman1]

I decided not to reinvent the wheel

Ha! There's hope for you yet :-)

There's nothing much you can do with a minor anyway. The blues pents are themselves minors, right? Standard blues is the minor over major/dom sound, etc. And a lot of jazz blues don't sound bluesy at all. What can you do?

[kris]

You may know all the musical scales, but you won"t learn the real feeling of the blues.
You can use modest musical means and have a great sense of the blues, e.g. articulation.
Recently I went to several blues jam sessions - new experiences.
I didn"t play jazz there - I played blues there....:-)

[Strat-itis]

You may know all the musical scales, but you won"t learn the real feeling of the blues.
You can use modest musical means and have a great sense of the blues, e.g. articulation.

There's nothing much you can do with a minor anyway. The blues pents are themselves minors, right? Standard blues is the minor over major/dom sound, etc. And a lot of jazz blues don't sound bluesy at all. What can you do?

Yes, that's true. It doesn't seem like crazy tools are used. Although I did pick up a few ideas: You have to learn the practical embellishments that the players use to integrate it into jazz, not only blues scale. But if you don't displace one blues scale (or blues device) over several chords, it still doesn't sound that bluesy. I also have my lil blues scale and dorian blues scale ideas that work pretty well.

[olliehalsall]

Might be just concidence but i've found my 'straight' blues playing has come on in leaps and bounds since studying jazz guitar . Could be i'm hearing and targeting chord tones more effectively?

[Strat-itis]

^ I'm sure. Possibly also your melodic proficiency.

I friggin figured it out. Sticking blues scale on the root of the 2 or the 5 wasn't sitting right with me (although it can kinda work). I think the solution is to blend playing the changes with just the blues scale of the tonic.

So say a 2-5-1 in C:
D-7 arp into C blues scale idea
G7 arp into C blues scale idea
C major and C blues scale idea

This is the most simplistic example possible. The goal would be to get musical with blending the 2.